New scrip gear (servers are up)

[Alahra]

This is...really strange, at least given what they told us about some of their goals for the scrip system pre-HW.

As far as I can figure, it's impossible to meet the minimums for 3-star crafting using i180 gear—you have to meld, unless I'm missing something obvious. They told us one of the points of the Scrip system was to give less hardcore crafters a method by which to gear up over time without having to meld, but the system seems to have taken a turn here.

Looks like I'll have to sit down, make the i170 stuff, and pentameld everything I have.

[Krazymagic]

What are the actual stats on the i180 scrip jewlery? I have not seen stats yet, and Im at work all day today.

[Mindy_Macready]

You can barely meet the requirements if you go full 180, specialize for the 20/20 bonus, and also eat HQ Beet Soup. This restricts you to 372 CP however.

Source: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SQTM

[Lewtz]

It's basicly a lie. They said new gear for pve and they got 220 230 240 and 245 ilvl gear. Pvp got new 205's that turn to 240's. Crafting/Gathering got no new tier of gear just an offhand and jewelry to extend the current ilvl and scheme. So new gear yes.. New tier like the rest of there game NO.

[AishaNymph]

What are the actual stats on the i180 scrip jewlery? I have not seen stats yet, and Im at work all day today.

zero control and craftsmanship

ring
180 23cp
110 HQ 21cp (cap 24cp)

bracelet
180 44cp
130 HQ 41cp (cap 48cp)

earrings
180 45cp
120 HQ 40cp (cap 48cp)

necklace
180 45cp
140 HQ 42cp (cap 49cp)

[Alahra]

You can barely meet the requirements if you go full 180, specialize for the 20/20 bonus, and also eat HQ Beet Soup. This restricts you to 372 CP however.

Source: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SQTM

Beet Soup would be what I was missing, yes. I didn't even know there was a Crafts/Control food. I'm not sure how effective 372 CP would be though, ouch.

[blueruckus]

Maybe they convert to Grade V's with a higher % since they are ilv 180. I thought there would be a better avenue to get Grade V Crafting Materia, but so far I haven't seen any

That actually might make sense of all this.

[Rath]

That actually might make sense of all this.

It would still not make any sense. The cost is way too high to use these for materia. SE had previously stated that scrip gear was to be a cheaper alternative to melding. The il180 right-side gear does that, but the accessories do not. If you combine them and have the entire set, you are left with enough CP to use the early 2-star rotations that were developed. These rotations will need to be significantly altered for 3-star crafts. They will also require all the cc skills you are not supposed to need as a specialist (as you need to also have a soul of the crafter equipped to reach the correct stats). The specialist actions do not help with this significant deficit this gear set gives you when compared to melded gear and rotations.

As soon as you look at the potential losses due to NQs it will actually end up cheaper to just make and meld the il170 sets.

[Kabooa]

"We have heard your concerns and are making adjustments.

All pre-i150 right side crafter gear has been substantially nerfed."

I should also point out that if you're able to gather at all, that experimenting with 3-star is significantly cheaper and easier to do than experimenting with 2 star (For Eikon metal at least).

Run your daily roulettes, use a King's Yield 2 gathering attempt on the metal, and bam. 5 3 star material crafts to play around with. If you can complete it with 5k quality, you can 100% it with HQ mats. (-1 per extra 1k)

[Krazymagic]

zero control and craftsmanship

ring
180 23cp
110 HQ 21cp (cap 24cp)

bracelet
180 44cp
130 HQ 41cp (cap 48cp)

earrings
180 45cp
120 HQ 40cp (cap 48cp)

necklace
180 45cp
140 HQ 42cp (cap 49cp)

Thanks for posting it. That is a tad lower stats that I had anticipated. I am glad that the 170HQ is still suprior, but I am surprised the 180 wasnt slightly higher stats. At least my 170HQ is still a good investment, as I upgraded just before the patch