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    And it would have been such a time consuming task to implement an alternative means to obtain a personal chocobo?
    Yes, it would have! It would mean the creation of an entirely new system, just for about 1% of the population of the game.

    No thanks. I would rather the Devs create a system that benefits 95% of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    Yes, it would have! It would mean the creation of an entirely new system, just for about 1% of the population of the game.

    No thanks. I would rather the Devs create a system that benefits 95% of the game.
    Where you get the 1% from? From my eye, I saw a lot of people crafting on the street and guild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Where you get the 1% from? From my eye, I saw a lot of people crafting on the street and guild.
    He is referring to players that chose to only craft and gather. Most of the crafters you see on the street and guild have battle classes probably capped even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    He is referring to players that chose to only craft and gather. Most of the crafters you see on the street and guild have battle classes probably capped even.
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
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    Last edited by Norwan; 09-29-2011 at 08:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
    Does it matter? The arguements have been answered now, the only use for this thread from this point on is to provide constructive ideas on what they would like to see for DoL/DoH classes regarding chocobos in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konachibi View Post
    Does it matter? The arguements have been answered now, the only use for this thread from this point on is to provide constructive ideas on what they would like to see for DoL/DoH classes regarding chocobos in the future.
    Of course, it does matter. If I said there are 99% of pure crafters & gatherers, and dev team buy it. They may change the game direction to DOL/DOH. Are you happy to see that happen? When he said only 1% of pure crafters & gatherers, some mindless people may think that only 1% of people in game, maybe it is not wroth to give the content to them. And that is why it does matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Of course, it does matter. If I said there are 99% of pure crafters & gatherers, and dev team buy it. They may change the game direction to DOL/DOH. Are you happy to see that happen? When he said only 1% of pure crafters & gatherers, some mindless people may think that only 1% of people in game, maybe it is not wroth to give the content to them. And that is why it does matter.
    But.... it really is close to 1% of the game population that only has crafting classes ranked up with no battle classes, that's the point. There really aren't that many people who buy a Final Fantasy game then don't bother doing any fighting in it.

    It's like me saying 1% of this energy drink I have is Taurine, it's not far off the mark, but it's close enough (it's actually 0.04% according to the label, but even that's an approximation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Of course, it does matter. If I said there are 99% of pure crafters & gatherers, and dev team buy it. They may change the game direction to DOL/DOH. Are you happy to see that happen? When he said only 1% of pure crafters & gatherers, some mindless people may think that only 1% of people in game, maybe it is not wroth to give the content to them. And that is why it does matter.
    Uh, the Devs don't need us to point out what percentage of players have leveled what jobs. They know very well how small the percentage is; and I have no doubt that this is one factor that informed their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwan View Post
    Maybe they are, or maybe not. There is no way that people can prove that only 1% of pure crafters and gatherers in game, so please don't use that number unless you can provide proof to it.
    That number represents my best estimate of how many people are in that position.

    It's a very small number, no matter whether you want to quibble or not. Because truthfully, you have to go REALLY out of your way, and make things difficult on yourself, not to have a single battle class leveled up to at least 20. You have to make a conscious effort to do so. I don't have much sympathy for folks who went so far out of their way to not participate in the vast majority of the game's content.

    And, once again, I would note that the vast, vast majority of people arguing against this requirement have combat classes leveled up. Just like yourself...

    I wanted to add, as well: did you use a bot, or multiple people playing the same account, to get r50 in so many crafts? I'm almost hoping you'll say yes; because the alternative is really depressing, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    That number represents my best estimate of how many people are in that position.

    It's a very small number, no matter whether you want to quibble or not. Because truthfully, you have to go REALLY out of your way, and make things difficult on yourself, not to have a single battle class leveled up to at least 20. You have to make a conscious effort to do so. I don't have much sympathy for folks who went so far out of their way to not participate in the vast majority of the game's content.

    And, once again, I would note that the vast, vast majority of people arguing against this requirement have combat classes leveled up. Just like yourself...

    I wanted to add, as well: did you use a bot, or multiple people playing the same account, to get r50 in so many crafts? I'm almost hoping you'll say yes; because the alternative is really depressing, man.
    I'd rather like to know how he got Carpentry up to rank 50 whilst only having Botany at rank 34...

    Veeeeeery suspicious.... *rubs chin*

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