GPU Question: Attn. -nVidia 570- & -ATi HD 6970- owners

[Hikozaemon]

*above posts are useless without at least cpu spec*




what's your system spec right now? what psu do you have? is FF14 your primary use? or are you planning on playing other games down the line? what's your budget and expectation for system longevity?

in other words, need more information :P

Its rather safe to say knowing peoples CPU and etc doesnt matter if u got a dual core and a Harddrive and a hd6850 u can play ff14 at max settings for a hell of alot cheaper than an overpirced name brand videocard (nvidia) and an overpirced cpu (intel)

[Aenarion]

Its rather safe to say knowing peoples CPU and etc doesnt matter if u got a dual core and a Harddrive and a hd6850 u can play ff14 at max settings for a hell of alot cheaper than an overpirced name brand videocard (nvidia) and an overpirced cpu (intel)

*sigh*

yea, we obviously need more fanboyism on these forums -_-

and i don't even know why you mention having a hard drive, as that's a required component in a system. Also, depend on a person's usage, a dual core may not be sufficient to run both FF14 and whatever else he's running, and the list goes on and on and on... Basically, you're looking at it from a singular "I iz AMD fanboy gamer" perspective, while I'm trying to offer him brand-loyalty-free advice that hopefully would give him what he's looking for. Also, nvidia isn't overpriced this generation, neither is Intel overpriced, AMD just haven't been able to put up much of a fight. AMD needs to step it up with their next CPU, they haven't been able to compete with Intel in anything other than the budget segment for awhile now.

Back on topic, both nvidia and amd offer competitive product across all price range this time around, and you're unlikely to go wrong with either one, which means go for the ones with the best deal you can find within your budget range.

[Hikozaemon]

*sigh*

yea, we obviously need more fanboyism on these forums -_-

and i don't even know why you mention having a hard drive, as that's a required component in a system. Also, depend on a person's usage, a dual core may not be sufficient to run both FF14 and whatever else he's running, and the list goes on and on and on... Basically, you're looking at it from a singular "I iz AMD fanboy gamer" perspective, while I'm trying to offer him brand-loyalty-free advice that hopefully would give him what he's looking for. Also, nvidia isn't overpriced this generation, neither is Intel overpriced, AMD just haven't been able to put up much of a fight. AMD needs to step it up with their next CPU, they haven't been able to compete with Intel in anything other than the budget segment for awhile now.

Back on topic, both nvidia and amd offer competitive product across all price range this time around, and you're unlikely to go wrong with either one, which means go for the ones with the best deal you can find within your budget range.

i was being a smartass since you where going out of your way to be one. I'm giving the OP my opinion and telling him not to waste money when he can get better for less; unless he wants to pay more and get less thats his decision. And AMD has no problem competing. They dont worry about minuscule gains and charging there customers 100's of dollars for minute and sometimes unnoticable differences in technology; they offer a very good product for a fair price. Next you'll tell me alienware PCs/laptops arent 4000% overpriced and are the best thing next to sliced bread.

[Konachibi]

i was being a smartass since you where going out of your way to be one. I'm giving the OP my opinion and telling him not to waste money when he can get better for less; unless he wants to pay more and get less thats his decision. And AMD has no problem competing. They dont worry about minuscule gains and charging there customers 100's of dollars for minute and sometimes unnoticable differences in technology; they offer a very good product for a fair price. Next you'll tell me alienware PCs/laptops arent 4000% overpriced and are the best thing next to sliced bread.

Try Dell. my friend paid £2500 for a brand new 'up-to-date' PC, then I went out and spent £300 upgrading mine and it ended up better than his.

He was not best pleased.

[Fear]

Try Dell. my friend paid £2500 for a brand new 'up-to-date' PC, then I went out and spent £300 upgrading mine and it ended up better than his.

He was not best pleased.

Anyone who spends that kinda money is a fool, I built my own for £850 and I checked the Dell website for one of the same specs and it was listed at £1,749.99 lol

*EDIT* Also Kon.... Dell owns Alienware and both are stupidly overpriced, Dell wanted £330 for a 6950HD and you can buy them from Amazon & Dabs for £174.99

[Konachibi]

Anyone who spends that kinda money is a fool, I built my own for £850 and I checked the Dell website for one of the same specs and it was listed at £1,749.99 lol

*EDIT* Also Kon.... Dell owns Alienware and both are stupidly overpriced, Dell wanted £330 for a 6950HD and you can buy them from Amazon & Dabs for £174.99

Well I thought he was being a bit of a twonk as well paying that kind of cash for a computer.

To be fair though, it's quite an impressive sight, it sounds like an airplane taking off when he switches it on, and he has a huge (it was huge at the time anyways) 28 inch monitor, and one of those 6 button mice and a gaming keyboard with the little LCD screen.

Still, he could have bought all that seperate from a decent PC store for about £800...

[Fear]

Well I thought he was being a bit of a twonk as well paying that kind of cash for a computer.

To be fair though, it's quite an impressive sight, it sounds like an airplane taking off when he switches it on, and he has a huge (it was huge at the time anyways) 28 inch monitor, and one of those 6 button mice and a gaming keyboard with the little LCD screen.

Still, he could have bought all that seperate from a decent PC store for about £800...

Ah lol, always a great sound. Mine sounds like a jet engine with the Graphic card fan at 100% and when I press the power-switch I get a nice sound from my 7 Coolermaster casefans.

I just ordered myself a 24" BenQ monitor from Amazon, right now im using my 32" LED TV which my wife isnt happy about.

My next step is a SSD, hope it increases FFXIV & bootup speed

[Fear]

I only use WD (Western Digital) or Samsumg, never had a single issue with them. I wont need to touch the paste anytime soon dont worry, my CPU never goes past 45c lol but FFXIV turns the damn room into a oven with the graphics card, I could lower the temps but I like my overclock and 60-65c is well within its limits, I think the 6950HD can do 100-105C before it throttles

[Aenarion]

i was being a smartass since you where going out of your way to be one. I'm giving the OP my opinion and telling him not to waste money when he can get better for less; unless he wants to pay more and get less thats his decision. And AMD has no problem competing. They dont worry about minuscule gains and charging there customers 100's of dollars for minute and sometimes unnoticable differences in technology; they offer a very good product for a fair price. Next you'll tell me alienware PCs/laptops arent 4000% overpriced and are the best thing next to sliced bread.

I wasn't, but you certainly are.

what's cost-effective depends entirely on what the intended usage is, and without knowing the whole picture, you can't make anything more than vague suggestions that aren't all that helpful to anyone.

and no, outside of a few exceptions, you don't pay more for less, you pay more for more, you just have diminished return on the extra money spent, unless you're utterly incompetent in choosing your components.

And please, it's hardly a secret that AMD has not been able to compete in the upper segment since Intel pushed out Conroe, and it has only gotten worse for AMD as time went on, which is why AMD has been concentrating their efforts in the oem/budget segments until Bulldozer is ready for debut.

Not saying the Phenoms are bad, they can certainly hold their own against comparable Intel offerings in the price range, it's just that the range doesn't go very high. Nor is the differences "minute". This isn't a matter of opinion here, go check the benchmarks on any tech site, AMD simply has no answer to Sandybridge atm.

and no, alienware sucks balls, but thanks for the fail strawman attempt.