GPU Question: Attn. -nVidia 570- & -ATi HD 6970- owners

[Hikozaemon]

*sigh*

yea, we obviously need more fanboyism on these forums -_-

and i don't even know why you mention having a hard drive, as that's a required component in a system. Also, depend on a person's usage, a dual core may not be sufficient to run both FF14 and whatever else he's running, and the list goes on and on and on... Basically, you're looking at it from a singular "I iz AMD fanboy gamer" perspective, while I'm trying to offer him brand-loyalty-free advice that hopefully would give him what he's looking for. Also, nvidia isn't overpriced this generation, neither is Intel overpriced, AMD just haven't been able to put up much of a fight. AMD needs to step it up with their next CPU, they haven't been able to compete with Intel in anything other than the budget segment for awhile now.

Back on topic, both nvidia and amd offer competitive product across all price range this time around, and you're unlikely to go wrong with either one, which means go for the ones with the best deal you can find within your budget range.

i was being a smartass since you where going out of your way to be one. I'm giving the OP my opinion and telling him not to waste money when he can get better for less; unless he wants to pay more and get less thats his decision. And AMD has no problem competing. They dont worry about minuscule gains and charging there customers 100's of dollars for minute and sometimes unnoticable differences in technology; they offer a very good product for a fair price. Next you'll tell me alienware PCs/laptops arent 4000% overpriced and are the best thing next to sliced bread.

[Konachibi]

i was being a smartass since you where going out of your way to be one. I'm giving the OP my opinion and telling him not to waste money when he can get better for less; unless he wants to pay more and get less thats his decision. And AMD has no problem competing. They dont worry about minuscule gains and charging there customers 100's of dollars for minute and sometimes unnoticable differences in technology; they offer a very good product for a fair price. Next you'll tell me alienware PCs/laptops arent 4000% overpriced and are the best thing next to sliced bread.

Try Dell. my friend paid £2500 for a brand new 'up-to-date' PC, then I went out and spent £300 upgrading mine and it ended up better than his.

He was not best pleased.

[Fear]

Try Dell. my friend paid £2500 for a brand new 'up-to-date' PC, then I went out and spent £300 upgrading mine and it ended up better than his.

He was not best pleased.

Anyone who spends that kinda money is a fool, I built my own for £850 and I checked the Dell website for one of the same specs and it was listed at £1,749.99 lol

*EDIT* Also Kon.... Dell owns Alienware and both are stupidly overpriced, Dell wanted £330 for a 6950HD and you can buy them from Amazon & Dabs for £174.99

[Konachibi]

Anyone who spends that kinda money is a fool, I built my own for £850 and I checked the Dell website for one of the same specs and it was listed at £1,749.99 lol

*EDIT* Also Kon.... Dell owns Alienware and both are stupidly overpriced, Dell wanted £330 for a 6950HD and you can buy them from Amazon & Dabs for £174.99

Well I thought he was being a bit of a twonk as well paying that kind of cash for a computer.

To be fair though, it's quite an impressive sight, it sounds like an airplane taking off when he switches it on, and he has a huge (it was huge at the time anyways) 28 inch monitor, and one of those 6 button mice and a gaming keyboard with the little LCD screen.

Still, he could have bought all that seperate from a decent PC store for about £800...

[Fear]

Well I thought he was being a bit of a twonk as well paying that kind of cash for a computer.

To be fair though, it's quite an impressive sight, it sounds like an airplane taking off when he switches it on, and he has a huge (it was huge at the time anyways) 28 inch monitor, and one of those 6 button mice and a gaming keyboard with the little LCD screen.

Still, he could have bought all that seperate from a decent PC store for about £800...

Ah lol, always a great sound. Mine sounds like a jet engine with the Graphic card fan at 100% and when I press the power-switch I get a nice sound from my 7 Coolermaster casefans.

I just ordered myself a 24" BenQ monitor from Amazon, right now im using my 32" LED TV which my wife isnt happy about.

My next step is a SSD, hope it increases FFXIV & bootup speed

[Konachibi]

Hehe, atm I'm using a 32 inch 1080p widescreen T.V, with a Geforce 210, 2 GB DDR2 RAM (I know, it sucks ), an AMD Athlon II X4 620 2.61ghz processor and some hulking great case with 6 external fans fitted on it (though one of them is clogged with dust and doesn't spin anymore )

It does what it needs to, though I was pretty distraught one day when the 500GB Seagate SATA harddrive I was using to store all my anime decided to have a firmware crash and now I'm trying to use one 300gb SATA drive to hold all my games AND anime.

*shakes fist angrily at Seagate*

[Esk]

Disclaimer : Personally I've run both AMD/ATI and AMD/Nvidia Rigs in the past, this is my 1st Intel/Nvidia Rig since my 1st Pc a long long time ago.
I chose this set up due to it being the best on market build at the time for cost/power.

i7 2600k @ 4.4ghz
Asus Maximus IV Extreme
EVGA GTX570 @ 850/1700 / 1900
2xGTX260 (OC'd for Side+top Screens for EvE / 1 run PhysX also)
6GB DDR3 9-9-9-24 (need to improve that lol)
OS on 120GB SSD
Game is currently on HDD 10,000rpm **
Game Runs fine @800/1600 / 1900 (more normal OC for a 570)

Windowed
1920x1200
8x CSAA
Draw Quality 8
Background 5
Shadows: Highest
Ambient Occlusion: Off
Depth of Field: On (mostly still cant decide)
Texture quality: High
Texture Filtering: Highest

FPS 52-60fps General Field almost solid 60+
Occasional 40s in UL I think due to HDD more then anything (can update post moving it to SSD if you like)

Personally Id get the Nvidia again and Oc it.
But Any Of the cards at this level are great so I wouldn't over stress and get the best one for your system (cpu/mobo) or the best offer at the time.
You can always get better if you spend more money or SLI/Crossfire and so on.

Oh and Agreed about the Dell/alienware being lolfail priced.
People should build a Pc, its not that hard even for a 5yo these days..

* Best stable (light testing) 880/1760 / 2100 - need to finish making waterblocks for my system was a touch too warm for stable/more OC
**Will be moved to SSD in a day or 2 had tests to run before i moved any non crucial things onto SSD, can update then

[Fear]

Right now I'm using a 500GB Samsung drive and a 1TB External HDD but I wanna get a 128GB SSD soon and maybe when the new Radeon 7xxx series is out pickup a 2nd 6950HD for cheap and cross-fire em but would need a new PSU for that.

I gotta go inside my case and clear the dust out soon, 1 month ago FFXIV temps were 60 now they're heading towards 70, 3 intake fans with 3 cats = alot of dust.

[Konachibi]

Always make sure to reapply thermal dust/grease to the processer every year or so too, that helps keep the CPU temperatures down.

My advice to anyone though is never buy a Seagate SATA harddrive, there was a huge deal about them not long ago having firmware crashes (which I found out a bit too late).

Hitachi harddrives seem pretty reliable though, think I have two in my computer atm and never had a problem with them.

[Fear]

I only use WD (Western Digital) or Samsumg, never had a single issue with them. I wont need to touch the paste anytime soon dont worry, my CPU never goes past 45c lol but FFXIV turns the damn room into a oven with the graphics card, I could lower the temps but I like my overclock and 60-65c is well within its limits, I think the 6950HD can do 100-105C before it throttles