Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
And if the ones I want are the matching ones that were designed for use with that set, and there's no fundamental difference between a man's hands and a woman's, why are we being locked out for no reason?
But, that’s just the thing. Those gloves were designed for the female version Expeditioner's Set, which looks different from its male counterpart. They share the same name,“feel” and theme, but the design for the male and female version aren’t the same.
From my perspective, they could’ve added “Fingerless Gloves” or “Ringbands” to match the overall look of the male set, but the FFXIV team went for a set without gloves. That is still their decision.

Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
There's no male-only equivalent to these gloves. I will freely admit that gloves aren't the be-all and end-all of my fashion choices, but almost every major patch since 2.2 has added gender-locked items in a ratio which favours players with female characters. The vast majority of these items aren't especially feminine in the slightest, and the community team has repeatedly acknowledged the imbalance and passed our wishes on to the design team. Yet it keeps happening - and in a way which is so ridiculous I'd take it for parody if I didn't know better.
And the Expeditioner's Set is the first set which has a gender specific version for both genders. This is proof that they are listening to the voices of the community, but make no mistake, if they feel that a certain outfit is only meant for males/females to wear, then they are in their right to place such a restriction on it.

Up until now, that meant that certain sets were designed so that only females were allowed to wear it and should respect their decision on it. Like i said in my previous comment, there is no harm in requesting certain glamours for the opposite gender. But, if the FFXIV teams that it does not suit a male character, then so be it.

Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
You're entitled to your opinion but I respectfully strongly disagree. We're up to 23 items more for players with female characters, which isn't a huge amount if you consider every item in the game but it's a large amount when you consider we pay the same subscription fees and that all of these items are specifically for glamour, not just arbitrary low level dungeon sets. When the gap keeps growing in one direction with each new batch of glamour items, it doesn't take a great deal of paranoia to read the writing on the wall. Especially when it's just a pair of gloves (two, actually) and female characters effectively have access to both the 'female version' and the 'male version' of the sets.

If this was about integrity of design, the female players would have no gloves either and their version of the top would automatically cover the hands.
Why? Because their male counterparts didn’t have any gloves added to their design? Then what about the rest of the set? The coat of the male version looks more ragged/tattered than the female version, which looks more smooth and clean tabard. The female version has thighboots which the male version has Moccasins.

There are fundamental differences between the two sets, but still share the same theme.

The design integrity doesn’t mean that the outfit of both genders need to consist out of the same amount parts. All of the parts of the design need to relate to each other as well as the whole design. If the FFXIV teams felt that the design of the male Expeditioner's Set worked better without gloves and because of that didn’t make any for the male set, who are we to say that they are wrong because the female version does in fact include gloves (or the other way around)?

Next to that, If you look at the Expeditioner's Tabard they actually do cover the hands (partially). You can make it look even more different if you wear long gloves/gauntles, like the
“Eikon Leather Armguards of Striking” which will cover more the lower part of the arm on one side, while leaving it open on the other.

The Glamour system allows you to change the look and feel of the gear you are wearing, just by trying out different combinations.

Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
Because they charge money to change gender (and in cases like mine, a name change would also be needed if I did; I'm not going to). The preferential treatment for female characters began in 2.2, and they keep sending messages implying that it will be addressed - yet it isn't, and in fact they just keep making it worse. If this is an actual policy then it's only fair to communicate it; nobody knows that aesthetic choices made in character creation actually limit your access to the same treatment later on. To you it's not important that we don't get to be excited about as many new glamour sets per patch. Others have a different outlook.

Sorry, are we supposed to be happy about being treated not quite as badly as we could have been?

Ow, come on… You are not being treated “badly”. Not by a long shot.

From what i’ve read, it’s not really the issue that men can’t wear certain gear (like the Thavnarian Dress or the Bunny ears). But, the main reason is that there is gear present in the game, where there is no equivalent for the opposite sex. It doesn’t matter how much.

Right now, according to your message above, there are 23 items which are exclusive to females, where there’s no equivalent male characters. 23. How many outfits are we talking about? 4 and a half? For every item that exists within the game that is only available for 1 specific gender, there will be someone complaining that it is unfair to them.

Let me ask you this very bluntly: What are we? Little children complaining that “she has more toys than i do”? Do we really need to split every single gummybear so that everyone has the same amount of candy?

There will always be things exclusive to others, be it items in seasonal events that you might have missed, clothing that is only available for a certain gender, items you can only obtain by working your ass off in order to get it (both through skill and sheer effort/time spent).

You are absolutely right that i don’t really care about gender exclusive items (and not because my character is apparently a female Miq’ote). And i don’t really get excited about most of the glamour items they introduce for that matter.

But, what i do care about is people believe that they are being treated unfairly because of silly things like this. And yes, complaining about a “missing” glove and believing that new players should be warned that male characters will be “limited in their choice of wardrobe” because we are paying the same subscription fee, is silly.