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  1. #21
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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeibird View Post
    i acknowledge that im probably in the one percent here, but i just wanted to chime in that i absolutely LOVE the summoner set. before 3.2 when esos where still esos and not the new lawstones, i craved the set but couldnt justify getting it because i almost never played summoner(scholar got more use)

    it has everything i personally love. its baroque, its sleek, its colorful, its flowy,its androgynous, IT HAS WINGS

    needless to say im very happy now that we're hemorrhaging eso
    Completely agree, I'm buying that set this week now the esoterics are rolling in. It's stunning.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eul View Post
    I just realized male lore tank gear is corsets!
    Thats why it is awesome!
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    Famine Cruor
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    Now this is interesting I once had a discussion in another game with this well-meaning idiot about how gender locked gear is basically discriminatory against transgendered players.

    WMI: "Transgendered players should be allowed to create male characters and make them wear dresses.

    ME: "Why?"

    WMI: "BECAUSE, they're transgendered!"

    ME: "No, that's stupid."

    WMI: (After calling me hurtful names. I am NOT a Neocon.) "Why do you say that?"

    ME: (Logic bomb) A trans woman would just roll a female character. Do you not know how this stuff works?"

    There was probably 200% more cursing involved in the conversation, but jeeeeez. People want to be supportive but they have this twisted idea of what being supportive actually means.
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  4. #24
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    While I agree that the freedom to choose one's gender in the game makes some concerns less critical, I think the view on 'men in skirts' is a lot more complex than that. What if you want to be a guy who wears fabulous robes, or a a female character who is a tomboy with short hair and actual trousers (my male friend who plays a female Miqo'te and wants to see her dressing conservatively could write essays on this topic)? You can appreciate that kind of aesthetic regardless of your real-life or in-game gender expression. The design team has been pretty supportive in general of these options, with tons of skirts available to male characters. So strictly conforming to western gender norms and modern society don't seem to be high up on their list of concerns.

    In any case, this topic is about gloves so let's not confuse it with cross-dressing.
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    Last edited by Serilda; 02-24-2016 at 11:16 PM. Reason: Fixed a word that was bothering me

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    I haven't played on my male characters/designs yet to try on the new gear and see if their is any differences...the PVP ones seem gender neutral which I love, the hair cuts were a great job and a step in the right direction (I also don't have the new poses to comment on those yet...)

    I think the ramie set for girls is beautiful. I always advocate and support threads like these, so don't let this statement mar my usual support ...

    "It's only gloves!"

    Isn't it a kinda great thing that this time ..it's only gloves? That we all got equal amounts of items? That's definitely a plus!

    But...

    In the same breath the fact that it's only gloves...- why are the gloves even gendered? XD
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  6. #26
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    I hope we get even more gender locked gear, just to annoy people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    *sarcastic picture*
    Imagine how great it will be when they finally address the problem and we don't have to keep defending ourselves against the same recycled 'men just want to wear dresses', 'glamour is stupid', 'make a female character, then' and 'it doesn't affect me so it's not a problem at all' arguments! The forums will be so peaceful.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenFox View Post
    I hope we get even more gender locked gear, just to annoy people
    At least hope for some male-locked gear so it can annoy a different half of the fanbase for once, I'm sure everyone is sick to death of me by now :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    The forums will be so peaceful.
    No they won't.
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 02-24-2016 at 11:01 PM.
    Viera looks amazing
    Hrothgar looks amazing
    Shadowbringers looks amazing
    Everything looks amazing
    ....
    .....
    So obviously it's all a trap and the world is factually coming to an end..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    While I agree that the freedom to choose one's gender in the game makes some concerns less critical, I think the view on 'men in skirts' is a lot more complex than that.
    Don't know If you were generally addressing my point but.

    I agree it's more complex.

    When I talk about letting men wear female clothes I'm not addressing the people who want it. I'm fine with men wearing dresses. And I think most are fine with guys being able to choose female clothes. Or vice versa. The problem people might ignore until a thread is made again by a upset customer is.

    Just because square puts out 5 new sets of glamour and both sexes can wear doesn't make it 100% equal and fair. If they release 5 dresses in one patch. Even IF men can wear it. Guys who want the "macho" man gear will feel neglected.

    Just trying to put myself in their shoes.
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