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  1. #21
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    Sidra's Avatar
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    I feel like this is an odd thing to complain about at the same time they release melding, and raid capable crafted i220 gear that you can fully meld. For the healers who like to DPS or value their ability to do so while playing highly - they can get up to ACC cap. And for those who don't care if they miss or don't dps at all and can put whatever they want in the gear, or nothing at all. Everyone wins.
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  2. #22
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    People do realise that you have to have level 60 crafters to meld to level 60 gear don't they? It's easy to say "there's a load of Tier V handouts now, just meld" but unless you have those crafts at 60, or know people/can get people who are willing to pentameld (most aren't), then you're stuffed.
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  3. #23
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    Rawrz's Avatar
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    People do realise that you have to have level 60 crafters to meld to level 60 gear don't they? It's easy to say "there's a load of Tier V handouts now, just meld" but unless you have those crafts at 60, or know people/can get people who are willing to pentameld (most aren't), then you're stuffed.
    Join the MMO and talk to some crafters.

    You need a Goldsmith item melded?

    /sea GSM 60

    ^ There's a list of all the 60 Goldsmiths online. You could also ask a FC member.

    Crafters are fairly generous most of the time. Even if you give them 5k gil for a few melds they would feel appreciated.
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  4. #24
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    AngelicSence's Avatar
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    Arch Ultia
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Yeah.. miss, miss, hit, miss.

    SE wants us to purchase new gear and slot accuracy material for healer DPS. Each ilevel230 gear has 2 slots. I think that\\'s how it\\'s going to be from now on. They want us healers to actually work on melding and earn DPS capacity, rather than free hit. I really hate it myself... but WHM actually has very good DPS power, you can cast saint + presence and spam holy + swiftcast holy then assize/Aero III = back to holy, which would result in massive damage. Now, I personally don\\'t see any issue with healer DPS being applied as long as they can stance dance good and make dungeon run go fast and fun. But SE really hate how healers can support speed runs. They nerfed holy twice, and it now does 200 (220 with cleric stance) potency and 50% after fifth mob. I bet even after those nerfs, they found WHM to be still unique, but they couldn't nerf the actual spell any further, because we all know what happens. So there is that.
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  5. #25
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicSence View Post
    I bet even after those nerfs, they found WHM to be still unique, but they couldn't nerf the actual spell any further, because we all know what happens. So there is that.
    SE will never give anything to WHM ever. They are too busy trying to make AST work to do anything much with either other Healer class. WHM would be fine as it is anyway if you could reduce the miss rate on AoE attacks. It's like they don't want any healers to have fun trying different things just be a heal bot. I can see the issues they have with Holy though it's really OP especially in the early days of 2.0. I remember old WP the pudding boss WHM was so ridiculous you could use holy to murder all the adds in seconds and fluid aura was able to stop his focused attacks because it'd bind him in a corner so by the time he got out he'd stop doing it XD.
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  6. #26
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    Lucille Lifeblossom
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Can confirm on Sephirot ex, missing a lot. Same for the ex dungeons. Really annoying for Anti-Tower all things considered with two bosses disabling party members. Fine if you want to tunnel us into healing only/not required to DPS, but would be nice if the value of accuracy wasn't so high along with making bosses where you can't even heal disabled targets.

    And if they want to stop speedruns using healer DPS, then make the mobs hit with something harder than a wet noodle already. No trash can really wipe you if you have any awareness at all.
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  7. #27
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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    Join the MMO and talk to some crafters.

    You need a Goldsmith item melded?

    /sea GSM 60

    ^ There's a list of all the 60 Goldsmiths online. You could also ask a FC member.

    Crafters are fairly generous most of the time. Even if you give them 5k gil for a few melds they would feel appreciated.
    You didn't see the bit where I said many crafters are not willing to do forbidden melds (pentameld) for others, I take it. People don't feel comfortable with not knowing just how many materia will be lost during the process; they feel guilty if melds constantly fail. I know lots of top tier crafters & most won't go past one forbidden meld as the success rate drops ridiculously low afterwards. It's fine if you're losing *your* materials, but not when it's someone else's.
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  8. #28
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    Kabzy's Avatar
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    -snip-
    I don't think you're quite understanding the melding system. The lv60 crafters don't lose anything except for a bit of time. You right click the crafter and 'request meld'. This makes you use your own carbonized matter, as well as your own materia. So they aren't losing any materials, just spending a bit of time to get 'your' melds done.
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  9. #29
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I ran the two new EX Dungeons with a BRD last night and Rain of Death + Foes made things so yummy. I noticed more misses but not to the degree noted here so I'm gonna chalk that up to Bard support power. lol.

    So, the best temporary solution? RUN WITH A BARD! =DDD

    (...yeah, I know, not a viable solution for everyone, but if you have a Bard friend, make use of it!)
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  10. #30
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Yerr, I was being naughty with an abacus and a stopwatch and had a ~13% miss rate or so.

    Guess I know which Materia I'll be putting in my gear.
    Raminax's value is probably pretty accurate.

    13% × 9 So probably around 470 accuracy required, which is lower than Thordon.

    Tier V acc on all gear (16 total) will net you 546 accuracy + Grilled Sweet Fish = 573. Which would be close to 100% for M2S and probably no less than 90% for M4S.
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