Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
that would be such a great example to wave at people if most dps could even play their class at anywhere near three quarters of maximum efficiency

dps always whine about this and that but man i couldn't imagine a FFXIV where in every level of content in the game doing your job acceptably was as pertinent as the healer or tanks doing theirs.

i bet there are still dps who do less damage than the tanks in dungeons and have comparable item level which is completely unacceptable
Those dps need to get better not rely on tanks. I like the trinity, but it's moot if tanks are independent. It also made a lot of tanks bad trying to be dps. I do wish they made stances specs, so que, gear, play and enjoy as dps, ect. But dps just needs to get better in general, and you can't say it isn't relevant because dps check wipes are real