Rest in peace War dps

[FinalWolf]

I guess I was asking too for much for a 5% nerf huh

[Genoreaper]

Competent str tanks did great runs, bad ones made exponentially worse runs the ones who don't know how big a pull they could handle then blame the healers. If you play as a good tank you probably never saw the multitude of bad ones out there. Unrelated how the hell do I get bsck to mobile view lmfao

[Iagainsti]

People are still trying to get WAR nerf because how strong we are as off tanks. I'm a WAR for life and I love being a tank regardless of the changes. But this sounds mean, kind of hard to enjoy a game when people are always complaining about nothing. Some things needed to be fixed on certain classes but the whole balancing out jobs to accommodate bad plays or make all jobs viable equally is getting old. I could understand if you had to make new toons or accounts to enjoy the game but you don't....just stubborn players crying to get their way.

If society does not cater to the slowest evolvers, civilization crumbles. This is why we have instructions on shampoo bottles.

[Genoreaper]

Everyone loves large hits, I'd be sad as a blm if they went away, but in the same respect that's my job. Tanks are still tanks, they didn't nerd your main purpose. You still have that. More damage was nice but was hell on heals and encouraged lazy dps. By making tanks into tanks that hit slightly less hard, and boost their hp, the group can play as a group now.

[Genoreaper]

I played wow for years as well, found horrors in all 3 of the roles. Bad players are going to be bad, would you be happy if healers or dps got huge general buff in dps to compensate or are you just mad that you aren\\\\'t as the tank? How about all dps classes get double damage just in case? Why should 1 tank job be the lone crutch?

You touched on another key problem. Parses. Everyone on console can\\\\'t even parse themselves, it would be great if it was self viewed or toggled to share. I have to ask someone to parse me when I want it done. So someone plays and things die, they have no idea how far behind they are. Unfortunately those who can exclusively parse have a tendency to go elitist and get mad when they aren\\\\'t topping regardless of their actual role. In the end tanks are made to be tanks, not armored dps with constant mitigation

[Delorean]

I played wow for years as well, found horrors in all 3 of the roles. Bad players are going to be bad, would you be happy if healers or dps got huge general buff in dps to compensate or are you just mad that you aren\\\\'t as the tank? How about all dps classes get double damage just in case? Why should 1 tank job be the lone crutch?

we get thrown into these situations because it's not supposed to tickle when you hit someone with an axe the size of a damn car door. shields weren't just used to deflect blows or arrows.

and dps are the absolute worst because really, there is so much that you, as DPS players do to change how a group succeeds. The better you do your job, the easier everyone's job is. This applies to healers and tanks as well, but not not nearly as much.

If our party was a car, the tanks would be the body and the steering wheel. The healers are the wheels and suspension the vehicle sits on. Your best DPS are the driver, the mirrors, turbocharged engine, the bad ass mufflers, the heated leather seats, the awesome stereo and convertible top.

But together, the rest of them make the million mile long highways this beast roars down the road on.

Do you want to be a smooth, freshly painted highway? Or do you want to be a highway loaded up with potholes that'll bust tires, wreck cars, possibly get people killed - not to mention lined up with tons of toll booths as a tax on visitors passing through?

We all have a responsibility. But as a DPS, you are more responsible for performance than any other role in the game. Yet, it is a role mainly dominated by slackers.

[Igziabeher]

We all have a responsibility. But as a DPS, you are more responsible for performance than any other role in the game. Yet, it is a role mainly dominated by slackers.

this. thank you sir/madam, as someone who started this game a few months ago as a tank, and you know, (surprise surprise) actually read up on how to play my role/do instances, its quite ridiculous when i see DPS who have been playing longer than me that don't even know fights. yes, my buddy who is healer can keep me alive for 30 minutes while the DPS scrambles around doing literally nothing, we know how to play our classes, but this isn't reasonable. slack DPS has it way too easy in this game, my friend and i can't do fractal/neverreap at *just over* i145 because we're healer and tank, but some idiot DPS who barely squeaked into i145 can run it, get loot, get ilvl req for next dungeons/raids, get better gear, and they still dont have 50 roulette unlocked..... just a bit silly if you ask me. even if the whole "max dps" meta has changed, DPS is still core to the game, and i'm not sure where people get off assuming that its healer/tanks responsibility to do same amount of damage as a DPS, when we're too busy surviving three extra mechanics because the DPS isn't taking down the boss efficiently. best tank in game cant survive three zillion adds, so do your job, and i'll do mine, AND i'll dps to the best ability that mechanics allow.

[Genoreaper]

Won't let me edit. But another thought, what if dragoons,monks, or ninja could take, keep and mitigate hate and damage better than you while still doing more dps , then they lost it during a patch and start raging over being squishier, would you feel bad? Or would you tell them to focus on doing damage while you tanked. If you want to tank, play tank, want to dps play dps. You were the only job who could choose between two options, blm can't go full mnd gear for any reason, heals can't rock full int and out dps plus heal.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

heals can't rock full int and out dps plus heal.

...I actually feel bad for you, poor thing. Healers out DPS the actual DPS on a regular basis. ESPECIALLY on big pulls. Even black mages get out DPS 'ed. And they don't need a scrap of int jewels to do it.

[Rawrz]

TO BE FAIR TO DPS:

A Guide to tanking: Tank Swap Mechanics, Pop your CDs, Typically easy to dodge because YOU are the target. First Priority of the Healer. If Off tank: Pick up adds and just DPS with minimal mechanics other than tank swaps.

A Guide to healing: Keep tank alive and Mitigate unavoidable damage when possible. Do simple interaction mechanics. DPS when you can.

A Guide to DPSing: Hit Max Numbers that your class possibly can, while contributing to mechanics that could take the coordination of 3 other DPS, while keeping up with DPS gates like Greased Lightning, Enochian, and Blood of the Dragon, while also avoiding AOEs. Know that there is no in game information telling if you have "failed" your role because unlike Healers or Tanks, you can't see if you're being effective. (Ergo Tanks aren't dead and have aggro.)