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  1. #11
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    Yeah but if you look at the time it takes to gear a character for effective raiding... you can easily gear multiple characters up to do so. It doesn't take a perfect set of weeks worth of gear to do 99% of the content. All of our hardcore raiders can play multiple classes for raiding content Thor Ex etc. Time tapers it some yes. But its not a permanent locked out state.

    I "think" have been ok if they had gone with a tapered design like that for crafting, where you could only viably gear up one character fully and the others less so, and then start working on the next and so forth. I THOUGHT red scripting was going to be like that. But they completely fubared that up, turning it into not just a time investment but an absolutely insane material investment. Then after that failure they jumped to locking recipes out.

    It all just shows me how uncreative and hopeless they are at this point with their crafting system. Suffice to say they are doing a great job at sucking the fun out of it.
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  2. #12
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    or lock players into specialist as a tank, healer or dps only?
    They basically have done this every single patch with weekly caps on the best gear, though?

    Also specialist is great and I don't think I'll ever understand the complaints. Especially now since you need a full crafter-specific set+specialist bonus+nearly full melds (or grade V materia) to even get to 3 star

    All the complaints can be solved easily by selling your specialist recipes to buy other people's or by being social and getting people to help you.
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  3. #13
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    That's just a monetary exchange. That's nothing in comparison to getting to enjoy 8 different trade classes, leveling them, gearing them. Getting to work through a variety of different recipes. All of these things are FUN. So I trade all of that fun for having to hunt down a deal on the auction house on overpriced intermediate goods? Thanks but no thanks.
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  4. #14
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    Lujan's Avatar
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    Lujan Nagi
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    Ragnarok
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    This 100% I'm an omni cool they locked me i levelled an alt you just have roll with it while I may not like it you just have to deal.

    They are not going to get rid of it
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  5. #15
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    All the complaints can be solved easily by selling your specialist recipes to buy other people's or by being social and getting people to help you.


    It's not so simple and people are making their point here. We CAN make our specialist-only crafts and sell them to buy the others. The thing is, we leveled ALL 8 crafting classes so we could be able to make our own things without rely on other people. We got used to this and we like it. I have so much fun wearing the latest set of gear that I made myself or seeing other people wearing it. Now I can't see it anymore or worse... I can make them or see other people using these crafts I made, when the set is not the latest anymore and there's a whole new set out there, that I can't make it either... Great.
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    Last edited by Dahlinea; 02-24-2016 at 08:52 AM.

  6. #16
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    Millen1's Avatar
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    Character
    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    When I did specialist crafting for relic, I sold the HQ relic token items only to FC members at a personal loss to myself. I lost gil on every one and as the mat price went down, I lowed my price to the FC. Relic is casual content yet on Behemoth server the price of relic crafted turn ins were way over priced for many reasons. A lack of interest in gathering all mats was one of the causes the other being so few crafters to service the MB that prices to this day remain higher than they should be for casual content. Had gathering not been so complex and I had not had to invest a massive amount of time into leveling up and gear up three char, the price would have been much lower. It would have also been lower if many of the crafters I know on the server from 2.0 to the start of 3.0 hadn't left the game because of a bad crafting system from the start.
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  7. #17
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    Daimen Zorander
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    Malboro
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Work as a team and work with other people in your FC. your server, your friends who have other crafts.

    You don't have any? MAKE SOME. We have a core of probably 5-8 friends working together to craft each other what we need. Each person sells their 'specialist' items on the boards. One person today already made over 45million gil.

    Just something you don't like doesn't mean others feel the same... actually they are probably just more quiet because they are making money ... but meh... just my two cents lol
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  8. #18
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    Xiao Ming
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Daimen View Post
    Work as a team and work with other people in your FC. your server, your friends who have other crafts.

    You don't have any? MAKE SOME. We have a core of probably 5-8 friends working together to craft each other what we need. Each person sells their 'specialist' items on the boards. One person today already made over 45million gil.

    Just something you don't like doesn't mean others feel the same... actually they are probably just more quiet because they are making money ... but meh... just my two cents lol
    Yeah, I have already made friends to make specialist work in 3.1. Most of the crafters I became friends with have since left the game as the are tried of the specialist system, So I lost the friends I made in the game to this system. Maybe other servers are better, Behemoth is not a good server to have looks specialist on. The cost of mats for 3.2 3 star crafting is low compared to other crafting yet the remaining crafters are selling the i220 gear for 25m to 50m on the MB. The i110 gear in 2.4 wasn't locked to specialist and the mat prices were much higher than current i220 mats but the final sale price was very low because there was completion on the MB keeping the prices reasonable at that time.
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  9. #19
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    Artur Vernon
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 60
    I like it. It is good that not 'everything' in the game can be done solo. It's a social game, get a friend to help you. If you wanna do it all by yourself go and play offline.

    To the OP I'm sure enough of us here would chip in the £9 a month to make up your sub deficit so we didn't have to here you whining
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  10. #20
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArturVernon View Post
    I like it. It is good that not 'everything' in the game can be done solo. It's a social game, get a friend to help you. If you wanna do it all by yourself go and play offline.

    To the OP I'm sure enough of us here would chip in the £9 a month to make up your sub deficit so we didn't have to here you whining
    What are you talking about? We do plenty of stuff with FC members and friends outside crafting like dungeons, Raids, Frontlines, etc. Not EVERYTHING in a social game needs to be done in group activities and crafting was the proof that something like this can exist and work on a social game... that is, until they decided to ruin it.
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