Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post

I don't get why YoshiP is resistant to making S3 an actual requirement. There's no elitism in a simple binary between "can do the absolute minimum to carry their own weight" and "can't." If you try S3 and can't do it, you shouldn't be trying to join the duty yet, and lying in PF about it to bait a carry is a serious abuse of other people's time and should be bannable.
Honestly, Stone, Sky and Sea does very little to alter the current state of the game, other than to give players who don't use 3rd party applications an abstract idea of their performance. As for myself, I'd rather just leave a PF group that's underperforming than try to ostracize a player that may be uninformed or ignorant about their theoretical potential. If a player wants to get better, they'll put the effort in to do so.