DPS: Why is it so dang taboo?

[Urthdigger]

Unfortunately, a lot of people pick DPS classes because they feel it's low responsibility, that they can slack off and nobody will even notice, let alone call them out on it. The trick is to treat DPS exactly the way they want to be treated, which is as useless, replaceable peons that nobody would notice if they were missing. It's a low responsibility tool that's easily replaceable, so don't worry about them getting offended, and if they continue to mouth off then just get a new one.

[Artemiz]

The main problem I see is that people are often unaware of just how bad they are at something, sometimes it's their role, sometimes it's giving advice. I mean, if someone spoke to me with this attitude

Unfortunately, a lot of people pick DPS classes because they feel it's low responsibility, that they can slack off and nobody will even notice, let alone call them out on it. The trick is to treat DPS exactly the way they want to be treated, which is as useless, replaceable peons that nobody would notice if they were missing. It's a low responsibility tool that's easily replaceable, so don't worry about them getting offended, and if they continue to mouth off then just get a new one.

They'd get told to **** off, plain and simple. I don't care if I was parsing lower than others, they'd still get told to **** off. Constructive criticism is an artform that few people actually have yet everyone thinks they do. It's not about an entitled generation or special snowflakes just basic human interaction. We're not talking about the migrant crisis or ISIS here, I can understand why people refuse to bow to political correctness when it comes to the greatest challenges of our time. For the most part we're talking about why that Stone Vigil run took longer than expected or why we wiped to a simple boss. A lot of the people I see giving "advice" are dicks about it, they come across as condecending, patronising, self-righteous dicks who would cry from the highest building if anyone spoke to them the way they speak to others.

If you're trying to put together an end game static then sure, that DPS who is holding everyone back either needs to shape up or go, it's the law of the jungle at that point and most can't take passengers in EG content, or have no desire too which is fair enough. These threads pop up though and usually have a nice screen cap which shows everyone behaving like little kids and the OP holding his hands up saying "I din do nuffin!!" during a 60 roulette run or something. I'm not trying to be a bad player apologist or anything, I'm just old enough to realise that moaning and insulting poeple won't suddenly change a casual player base into A4S clearing superstars. Some people are good at games, some aren't and we all mix together in the melting pot that is DF, learn to deal with it.

[autumn]

If you're trying to put together an end game static then sure, that DPS who is holding everyone back either needs to shape up or go, it's the law of the jungle at that point and most can't take passengers in EG content, or have no desire too which is fair enough. These threads pop up though and usually have a nice screen cap which shows everyone behaving like little kids and the OP holding his hands up saying "I din do nuffin!!" during a 60 roulette run or something. I'm not trying to be a bad player apologist or anything, I'm just old enough to realise that moaning and insulting poeple won't suddenly change a casual player base into A4S clearing superstars. Some people are good at games, some aren't and we all mix together in the melting pot that is DF, learn to deal with it.

Well said Artemiz!

[Taika]

Unfortunately, a lot of people pick DPS classes because they feel it's low responsibility, that they can slack off and nobody will even notice, let alone call them out on it.

It's strange this indeed seems to be the case, because from my perspective playing a DD job well in this game requires much more effort and focus than playing a healer or tank job well. A tank or healer not playing their absolute top game in Savage are much less likely to make the group lose the fight than if the DDs do the same, and very rare DD players are able to do actual good numbers in any difficult fight.