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[Liyonn]

I didn't say "exclusive," I said unique. As in, now that they can be dyed, they lose their unique appearance. It's the same as when we got access to augmented AFs, and they lost their uniqueness. Certain things should stay undyeable.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.... You can just keep them undyed if you like their appearance.

[Vinta]

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.... You can just keep them undyed if you like their appearance.

They really should force us to have the undyeable versions, though. They should draw a line and say "You don't get to have everything you want 100% customizable." The more they cater to us, the more entitled we feel and the more we bitch at them when we don't deserve to.

[Vexander]

They really should force us to have the undyeable versions, though. They should draw a line and say "You don't get to have everything you want 100% customizable." The more they cater to us, the more entitled we feel and the more we bitch at them when we don't deserve to.

I... don't understand this at all. Players like options. It's always been that way. I'd love to have the option to dye some armor from dungeons. Take the Valerian Wizard's stuff from level 60 dungeons. I'd love to dye that black and wear it on my Black Mage. I think it'd look really great. Instead I'm stuck with a shade of green that feels more appropriate to a Conjurer than a Black Mage. Works well for Summoner though.

[Vinta]

I... don't understand this at all. Players like options. It's always been that way. I'd love to have the option to dye some armor from dungeons. Take the Valerian Wizard's stuff from level 60 dungeons. I'd love to dye that black and wear it on my Black Mage. I think it'd look really great. Instead I'm stuck with a shade of green that feels more appropriate to a Conjurer than a Black Mage. Works well for Summoner though.

This right here is one reason why unique clothing shouldn't be dyeable. You think it looks less appropriate to your Black Mage just because it isn't black. Therefor you don't think it's valid for your Black Mage even though it's literally a "wizard's robe." If you dye it black, it makes it just another generic robe and it loses the feel of it being an otherworldly Valerian outfit.

[Eidolon]

This right here is one reason why unique clothing shouldn't be dyeable. You think it looks less appropriate to your Black Mage just because it isn't black. Therefor you don't think it's valid for your Black Mage even though it's literally a "wizard's robe." If you dye it black, it makes it just another generic robe and it loses the feel of it being an otherworldly Valerian outfit.

This makes no bloody sense.

Person X wearing it and making it black is their own fashion choice. It has literally 0 effect on the Base set of armor. It changes nothing about it's uniqueness when it's in a Neutral state. I do not understand, in what state of mind, you have to think that making armor have more variety in color is taking away from the uniqueness of the sets.

[Vinta]

This makes no bloody sense.

Person X wearing it and making it black is their own fashion choice. It has literally 0 effect on the Base set of armor. It changes nothing about it's uniqueness when it's in a Neutral state. I do not understand, in what state of mind, you have to think that making armor have more variety in color is taking away from the uniqueness of the sets.

Once again referencing people being unique, not the equipment being unique. There are plenty of other commonplace robes to dye black if you want a black robe. There are plenty of unique pieces that are black by default if you want a black robe. The fact that the Valerian Wizard's Robe is green and will stay green no matter what is part of what makes it unique. Some people want to wear it, some people don't want to wear it. But it will stay its default colors. That's how it should be.

[Vexander]

Once again referencing people being unique, not the equipment being unique. There are plenty of other commonplace robes to dye black if you want a black robe. There are plenty of unique pieces that are black by default if you want a black robe. The fact that the Valerian Wizard's Robe is green and will stay green no matter what is part of what makes it unique. Some people want to wear it, some people don't want to wear it. That's how it should be.

I think we may be losing track of what I meant with my example. The robe being green doesn't make me refuse to wear it. Heck, when I buy the upgraded armor from tomes from Idyllshire, I'll probably glamour them to look like the Valerian Wizard's Robe, as I do like it's look, it's style, which does not exist elsewhere in the game, or have anything similar to it. In that regard, it is unique. Being able to change the color doesn't detract from that uniqueness. It simply gives more options to express myself and my character.

[Vexander]

This right here is one reason why unique clothing shouldn't be dyeable. You think it looks less appropriate to your Black Mage just because it isn't black. Therefor you don't think it's valid for your Black Mage even though it's literally a "wizard's robe." If you dye it black, it makes it just another generic robe and it loses the feel of it being an otherworldly Valerian outfit.

I don't see how it becomes generic by dying it black. Or how it's very, 'Otherworldly,' at the moment either. It looks like the sort of thing I could see a Gridanian Hearer or Conjurer wearing. It's the perfect shade of green for blending into the Twelveswood too. Pity that White Mages can't use it. But Black Mages can. Is it so wrong that I'd -prefer- to be able to make it black? Heck, I think it'd look great White as well. Or Red. Or Blue. I'd like to see all that. But, it will forever be green, unless SE decides to change it.