Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[Valarian]

I get the impression that people arguing against DoH/L personal mounts are arguing points other than the one that's being made, for the most part. Such as:

DoH/L should not be able to join a grand company.
DoH/L shouldn't complain about the patch because they get something out of it, too.
DoH/L shouldn't complain because what they want will be implemented eventually. (Show me where you found this!)

Few, if any, actually take up the argument that DoH/L *shouldn't* have access to personal mounts at all.

[Holland]

I believe is not the fact they should not be able to get personal chocbos by direct means. For me, is the feeling that is ok for SE to ask me to level up a DoW/DoM class for a Personal chocobo (I've mentioned before if the plans change to include all classes it would not affect me in the least as it does not now).

[NoctisUmbra]

I get the impression that people arguing against DoH/L personal mounts are arguing points other than the one that's being made, for the most part. Such as:

DoH/L should not be able to join a grand company.
DoH/L shouldn't complain about the patch because they get something out of it, too.
DoH/L shouldn't complain because what they want will be implemented eventually. (Show me where you found this!)

Few, if any, actually take up the argument that DoH/L *shouldn't* have access to personal mounts at all.

The thread is about DoH/L access to Grand Company issue chocobos. The OP inquired about DoH/L being able to get company seals and obtain a personal chocobo. People are against that, and for good reason too.

Those same people, from what I can tell, are not against DoH/L getting a personal chocobo through other means. Hell, I actually like the Fat Chocobo idea.

[darkstarpoet1]

I could argue that I needed to level a gathering class I did not want to level to amass that gil so in turn I could be able to bribe that crafter. So it can go both ways at the end.

no you can't. you had battle leves you could do to amass gil and you could have farmed material on your battle class to sell to the npc or the wards. in other words you had ways to get the gil so you were not forced to do so. nice try though.

[NoctisUmbra]

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

I can buy gear with gil. I can get materia attached to my gear with gil. I can get people to repair my gear with gil. I do not get to experience the convenience of doing these things myself when and how I want, without paying someone else, unless I rank up a crafting class.

You can ride a rental chocobo with gil. You do not get to experience the convenience of having a faster and much more flexible battle chocobo issued by a Grand Company unless you rank up a battle class and join said company.

[Holland]

no you can't. you had battle leves you could do to amass gil and you could have farmed material on your battle class to sell to the npc or the wards. in other words you had ways to get the gil so you were not forced to do so. nice try though.

But if I want to amass gil faster*, which is akin to a faster chocobo than Rental, I would need to level up a gatherer class.

[Duuude007]

ok if both are equal then where does a straight crafter go to bribe a dow to get them their personal chocobo? you point out that a battle class can bribe a crafter to make the materia for them is equal so i am just curious because i haven't seen anything about crafters could get a chocobo by paying a battle class for them.

that's like saying dow cannot equip or use their gear unless their craft rank is high enough to repair it or that battle classes cannot use gear with materia attacked unless they are high enough rank to attach it themselves.

do you see the flaw in your own argument? one way you can still get what you want without leveling another class you do not like, but the other way you cannot.

Well lets see, you could perhaps bribe a battlecraft to powerlevel you in copperbell till rank 25. Which in all honesty would be pretty fast considering current game mechanics. BAM, you have a permanent solution, while DOW/M will still have to endlessly bribe crafters for materia content, if they dont want to rank up DoH.

Check.
and.
Mate.


edit: cue the dow/m whiners for their newly discovered slight disadvantage in 3...2...1...

Oh wait, that clique might actually be more rational. Only time will tell...

[ZachCero]

Most likely not since Yoshi P. decided to make crafters and gatherers secondary to battle/magic classes. Every crafters and gatherers need a war or magic class if they wish to advance in the game now.

What did you expect?

To be able to chop away at Ifrit with your saw or hammer?

[Duuude007]

What did you expect?

To be able to chop away at Ifrit with your saw or hammer?

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...how big is the hammer?


...

KIDDING...kidding.

[ZachCero]

I lol at these threads... When I say "lol", I actually say LOL!