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  1. #121
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    darkstarpoet1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feln View Post
    Is this argument an argument simply for the sake of being an argument?

    You have more than one class at 50, nevermind simply being up and above level 25.
    Is your wife planning to join and play just to craft and you're forum-battling on her behalf?
    Are you worried about all of the new, perhaps around seven or so, people that will join the game in the next year with the intention of focusing only and strictly on crafting without touching DoW/M at all?
    Or are you just one of those people who wants to nitpick at any loose thread that you can find?

    Why you give a damn about something(which isn't even a big deal) that can be remedied with like 2-3 days of CASUAL battlecraft leves/Behests is beyond me.

    Sometimes you people just need to play along, instead of whining about insignificant little non-issues that rub you the wrong way. (You people!?)
    i've stated that long ago that i had my class up to 50 and it will not bother me at all. i stated that i don't feel it's fair for the ones in the game that have earned just as much sp in the game as another and has as high, if not higher ranks, and spent just as much time to level their character is told that they cannot get an alternate form of transportation.

    i didn't ask why they can't enter the darkhold and fight and kill battral nor why they can't fight ifrit because those are battle related only content. this is a form of transportation and nothing more so i was stating that it seemed odd that they added companies and only allow 2 of the 4 disciples to join.

    to me there's a big difference between doing battle only related content such as fights and something everyone should be able to do. that's like saying your pug can't equip your spiked knuckles because your crafting level isn't high enough to craft it. to me both ways are punishing one group for no logical reason.
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  2. #122
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    Cycloptichorn's Avatar
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    The Cyclops
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    Gladiator Lv 44
    The Devs have specifically stated that the future of Chocobos includes training them to fight next to you. So, it's not just transportation. Not in the slightest.
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  3. #123
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    Celene Starlight
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    They are called Personal Chocobos, not "Battle Mounts". Non-combat types are people, too.

    Crafters are at least as useful to an army as soldiers, unless you expect those soldiers to fight naked and unarmed.

    Fighters don't get stealth abilities because they have weapons. If you're playing the game to bust heads then an ability to avoid doing that probably doesn't seem too terribly attractive. If you have to stand in particular spaces with aggressive mobs and are armed with nothing more than an unlimited supply of pebbles, it becomes more important.

    Battle training for Chocobos could require a battle class. Otherwise the chocobo only serves as transport.
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    いつか人は一人になって思い出の中に生きていくだけ。

  4. #124
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Last time i was in the army i sure didn't see any gunsmiths @ the base or anywhere, you know where they was while everyone is in Iraq, in the comfort of their home making money this concept make so much sense on tons of lvls....

    Also everyone who bought this game has played an MMO before knows damn well this game was not gonna let you do everything as an crafter. For the last time for the sake of Yoshi-P ill say it again quest number *** 11. Are you willing to have drastic changes done to Final fantasy XIV 89%= Yes. /thread
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    Last edited by Ashvrei; 09-28-2011 at 05:48 PM. Reason: Inappropriate language.

  5. #125
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    Nywawa Fenq
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    Aegis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    By far more you mean exactly the same amount right? I mean when battle classes do leves, they have to go to the camps. When crafting classes do leves they are at the same camps and occasionally still in the city. Ever since they revised the target camps for the crafting leves both types have been going to the exact same camps every reset if they're doing leves. You can grind out crafting just as much as you can grind battle.
    You obviously don't do any local leves. For battle class, u got 1 r10 camp, 1 r20 camp, 2 r30 camps, and 2 r40 camps (city wise). In other words, when ur battle class is r20 something, u go to only one camp. Do u know how many camps we crafters need to run to turn in leves? All fXXking all of them. Speak when u know better.
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    Last edited by Norwan; 09-28-2011 at 08:10 AM.

  6. #126
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    Reading these other chocobo things keeps making me remember my thread

    Chocobo Ideas

    They've done riding chocobos, they've announced there will be chocobo breeding, and they just mentioned craftable chocobo gear... so that means 1 of 2 things just happened:

    1: S.E thought of my ideas first and are already planning it all out, or
    2: They read my thread, thought "ooo that's a good idea" and decided to go with it

    Either way it's awesome x3

  7. #127
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    The modern army is a poor example to go by. Military equipment is manufactured by machines that are overseen by humans. Each weapon is not lovingly hand crafted by a single person. Factories probably wouldn't fit on a chocobo like a single crafter might.

    Crafter types aren't asking for access to *everything* here. They're asking to own a Final Fantasy signature mount, which sounds very reasonable to me.
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  8. #128
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    Not forgetting that a lot of crafters also do gathering, and it'd be a pain in the rear-end to have to run from a city to a grade 4 area, then run between one node and another for ages. Chocobos shortens the gathering process significantly, in fact it'd be fair to say gatherers will benefit the most from chocobos.

  9. #129
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    By far more you mean exactly the same amount right? I mean when battle classes do leves, they have to go to the camps. When crafting classes do leves they are at the same camps and occasionally still in the city. Ever since they revised the target camps for the crafting leves both types have been going to the exact same camps every reset if they're doing leves. You can grind out crafting just as much as you can grind battle.
    Obviously you are not a crafter.. Battle classes have to go to 2 maybe 3 camps a leve cycle. Crafters have to go to a different camp for every single leve they do.
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  10. #130
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycloptichorn View Post
    BS they do! I craft and do battle, and there is no truth to the statement you made here. Crafters do no more leves than battle classes do.

    And EVERY battle leve has to be done at a camp or portal... there are a whole lot of crafting leves that never require you to leave town. I should know, I do 'em pretty much every time they come up.
    You also apparently do not craft..

    At each level there a up to 2 leves that keep the user in town.

    Every other leve goes to it's own individual Aetheryte

    If you want to Focus on a single craft you have to go to all three cities for your leves because each town only offer 2 or 3 per level range.

    That means you have to travel to upwards of 11 different location every leve cycle opposed to the battle classes 2 or 3.

    Crafting requires alot more travel than Battle by far and without exception.
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