The Mentoring Requirements... *Rant Style*

[Whiteroom]

@whiteroom we see things differently. You dont have to agree, until proven wrong my opinion and vision is as valid as yours.Time will tell how could this system is, right. The use of DF by low levels that are still under mentoring limits will me met with less patieence than is today. Level 60 df party this day SMN never used aby dots didnt see the need to. Used titan because is cool. I checked loadestone he is well within requirements for mentorship and probably will ve one.. tell me doesnt it wordy you? It does me and this is not an isolated case

How are you not getting that it is a system that allows those who are looking for help to identify and easily find those who are willing to help, and vice versa? You can go and randomly help people who may or may not need or want your help, or you can connect with people who want help easily. Or you can say "I mentoerd before it was cool, I don't need that system."


Your comment about the SMN shows you didn't even read, or if you did read, did not understand my post, and that you continue to not understand the purpose of the requirements for mentor.


Also your coment later about needing a title to teach shows that you can either not grasp the simple concept of what the system does in the most basic sense, that you are willfully ignoring it, or a third option.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's a tool, the success of the job depends on the user.

Does it worry me bad players will be able to mentor, no. To me your inability to grasp what the system is is just as telling as that SNM not using dots, and I'm not saying that to insult, it's just the way I see it. Bad players can and do mentor people now, if you care to understand better, read my previos post, the one you @whiteroom responded to.

[MeiUshu]

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well if you prefer to see it as al shiney and stuff by all means be my guest. But dont come here and tell me that mentor is only meant the way YOU see it (or understand it), is not the case, when you mentor, is not only telling where to find a gear or stuff like that, is far more then that. This mentorship in essence good, is not all shiney as YOU want to make it. There is far more involved into then *just* this or that.

As for my example, it was only there to show that if someone lvl 60 with all the requirements needed to teach according to what was set forth is not understanding what he is supposed to do as basic , and that person could teach another as per requirements, you do realize right the problem? or you dont ? and dont tell me is not the case and etct..because as you see it exists and nothing prevents them to teach with the new system and so make of a newby as in new an incompetent in turn, ebcasue that one happened to have trusted that SMN that had that title above his head.

So please refrain from telling someone NOT of your vision that he doesnt understand I do, I just dont believe is the solution to all problems, quite the contrary. Besides why do we have a Mentor roulette ? you mean to say is the incentive? I hope not technically is meant to help newb in a real setting by giving advice and teach them IN the dungeon, right? otherwise what is the point of having a Mentor roulette yes? well I sure hope it wont be the SMN I met taht is the mentor in such a dungeon, dont you agree ?

Anyway, we will just agree to disagree...as you and me arent in the same page about this. For me it is flawed not in the intend but because of the community as a whole. There are exceptions, but they are rare and those are not on public place they dont need a stage (understand title). they proceed to do and contribute to the overall betterment, when you need atitle to do something for the community or the good of the community, and before that you never bothered, tehre is somethign wrong isnt there ?.

[Reisui]

Anyway, we will just agree to disagree...as you and me arent in the same page about this. For me it is flawed not in the intend but because of the community as a whole. There are exceptions, but they are rare and those are not on public place they dont need a stage (understand title). they proceed to do and contribute to the overall betterment, when you need atitle to do something for the community or the good of the community, and before that you never bothered, tehre is somethign wrong isnt there ?.

Read my previous posts, most of the Mentors will not use this for the title, but as a way to reach out to the people that want help. Not everyone want's help, how many times, when you see someone struggle in a dungeon, you give them advice and you get the answer 'Shut up, I pay a sub, I play how I want!'. So with this, at-least you know the person wants help.

And you have fear the community will abuse it, well tbh, this can and will happen with everything. If you live in fear, then you just stop doing anything in you life, since everything is abuse-able. If we need to take into account that people might abuse it, then SE should just give us the best gear from day 1, make the fights so easy that you just need to auto attack so everyone can clear everything, which would be stupid right?