Suggestions: Keeping the Game Fun

[Nandina]

I have to point out that while your cousin found a lot of that fun, there were also people who got frustrated by the NM system in XI. He may have found it thrilling to camp against others, but there were also those who found it frustrating. My husband and his best friend camped an NM for six hours, killing place holders, only to have someone come in when it spawned and reap the benefits of their hard work. That isn't fun and I doubt anyone wants to repeat that here.

I definitely want no parts of that, lol. I'd be highly annoyed if I waited that long just to not get anything done. I like XI but, like I said initially, the grind was entirely too much at times.

I would agree with the weapon breakdown you provided if either a) the more difficult content = better weapon or b) all the weapons were the same.

However, Relic > Thordan EX, which is pretty ridiculous imo.

That aside, the Relic just isn't fun. I like the idea of a relic weapon, but it's implementation is not done well (in my opinion).

As for how long it takes, I am well versed. I have my 210 SMN and am 30% done gathering pieces for my SCH. It's not that it's hard, or too long, it's that it isn't fun. It encourages play which makes you less interested in the game and/or burnout.

All of that said, the issue is that the OP is stating what he doesn't like, and then providing suggestions. Many people complain that people on this forum just sit around whining without providing any solid suggestions - well he did. You are more than welcome to disagree with his suggestions, but to effectively say "your suggestion is invalid, because it's always been that way' makes little sense. It being that way is the problem.

Definitely burned out from doing that. Once I had to start doing the same dungeons over to gather light, I was just done with relic. One guy in my FC somehow managed to get his relic done from beginning to end in about 6 days somehow, he essentially got very minimal sleep and pretty much we all saw him on PSN from like 5 am well into the night. We're all still wondering how he pulled it off. I personally don't have that level of dedication or focus. But he is also one of the members I mentioned that no longer plays the game sadly.

Oh and I'm a girl lol.

If I remember correctly, 1.0 was a lot more like FFXI and most of us probably know where that ended. Not to say that there weren't other major problems too, but the devs have made it quite clear that they're not going to make FFXIV into another FFXI, rather they want to do their own thing.

Like I said in the post, there can be an optional land mass or zones where people who enjoy this at least have the options whereas those who don't can continue with the way things are now.