Suggestions: Keeping the Game Fun

[Judah_Brandt]

What the above poster said! I just wanted to post below him because our characters have the same last name. Coincidences are fun.

[dinnertime]

For Small Maps:
It's kind of a shame they remade the ARR maps to be so very small (for my tastes). ARR zones don't really feel like you're out on the wilderness and that anywhere you are there is civilization right next to you, but they certainly made the zones far more interesting than 1.0's zones.
Heavensward zones were quite an improvement but yes flying ruins how big they are pretty much and I don't know, I don't really like some of them, especially Coerthas Western Highlands (although the music for it is really good.) they seem to fell like very messily-made zones.
1.0 zones are about x4 or x5 times bigger than their ARR zone counterpart and the new Coerthas Western Highlands is only 1/3 of it's 1.0 counterpart (Just to give you a comparison between HW zones and 1.0 zones) but 1.0 zones don't really have any interesting landmarks so it's mostly full of emptiness, boring sanctuaries (almost every sanctuary looking like the same camp) and that the terrain is excessively copy-pasted. Although usually I think 1.0 zones seemed to feel much better than ARR zones. EDIT: Now I know why. Because they were seamless! The current zones being chopped down with loading screens just ruins it for me and makes the area feel too small.
I kind of liked how Black Shroud was a labyrinth before. More interesting approach than it is now, but sadly people didn't like it.

For Easy Travel and Transportation:
There was a thread recently about teleportation ruining immersion but pretty much I agree with the rest that i'd rather have convenience. With unspoiled nodes and hunts that might take a couple minutes until it's done, I think we won't be seeing zones being ever difficult to travel. Although Dravanian Hinterlands has no Aetheryte in it at all (I think the only open world zone so far? and also my favorite zone because of that) so there might be hope.

However we won't be seeing much of real-time transportations because of how easy it is to access areas, people would seem to only do this for fun unless there's an incentive or a good reason to.

Also, White Mages always had access to other Elemental magic. Aero actually started out as a white magic spell.
Don't forget Conjurers are actually the "Elementalists" originally, and not the Thaumaturge. They used to have every elemental magic until Black Mage was added and then half were shared with Thaumaturge and removed their umbral/astral spells.

What the above poster said! I just wanted to post below him because our characters have the same last name. Coincidences are fun.

Pffftt. What a coincidence indeed!

[Legion88]

Why not add mor equipment sets with set boni. Maybe now traits for complete sets.

It feels a bit odd that only the GC equipment has set boni, small boni but they have.

[raela]

I like how FFXIV gives a good choice of solo (including solo queue into DF) vs group content. I don't have time to always be waiting for other people to do content with.

[Synrin]

Players not being asses
Players often trolling and being asses affect others' gameplay, because this is an MMO. If we all gave a bit of good humour I am sure the game would be even more enjoyable.

Some things in games do not depend on DEVs

[Leigaon]

Players not being asses
Players often trolling and being asses affect others' gameplay, because this is an MMO. If we all gave a bit of good humour I am sure the game would be even more enjoyable.

This would do a lot. So many times you go into a roulette, and someone taking the game too serious makes it not fun at all. If you don't pull the way the others want, or if you aren't up to their level in learning the fights they get really upset. They tell you they don't have the time for this, but you're online playing a video game..you have time.

I think a lot of frustration comes from people trying to do so much. Doing your roulettes every single day, making sure to cap out eso or do your weekly raid run..it gets very frustrating. I haven't touched the game since..Thursday?

The game is fun, beautiful and just a wonderful world. Though it is lacking a lot of the characteristics that makes the game addictive like my love for XI. Still, I play and will come back because I can always catch up.

Linear Progression...Too Casual...No Support Role

I agree with these most of all. What keeps most people away is the fact that after you get your gear..what else is there? I don't do savage because there is no need. The gear great compared to what is out there and when we have a patch update, it will not matter so much.

In the forbidden times of XI, a piece of gear held its own to an extent. Putting in pieces that give something would encourage people to come back and get what they need to. It would even be something little. Cover giving a defense or enmity boost to the PLD. Afraid people will just go "have X items / ability or don't come"? Goes back to people not being jerks about it. It wouldn't be needed to make you win content. I guess this is the real flaw that cannot be patched...people.

It can be too casual, I do not think there is a need to nerf content to the extent they do sometimes. Make the fights stay difficult, let people learn. Encourage others to not just learn, but seek help from their LS/FC.

As for support, there is no role. I understand that. I just feel that some of the abilities should be party wide and enforce more party enhancements.

[Kaurie]

This would do a lot. So many times you go into a roulette, and someone taking the game too serious makes it not fun at all. If you don't pull the way the others want, or if you aren't up to their level in learning the fights they get really upset. They tell you they don't have the time for this, but you're online playing a video game..you have time.

Is this a common experience for you? I mean love to talk about horror stories, but the last time I saw a rude player in-game was... I think a few months before Heavensward? I can't really recall.

Other than that though, I see a lot of horrible players. This is a much more common occurrence, i.e. tanks that pull 2 mobs at a time and still lose hate to the healer, healers who can't keep a group alive for the life of them and DPS who pull 30% of what their class and gear are capable of. On average, you see at least 1 of these per run (on occasion no one is bad, sometimes all 3 are bad).

I think a lot of frustration comes from people trying to do so much. Doing your roulettes every single day, making sure to cap out eso or do your weekly raid run..it gets very frustrating.

I completely agree, frustration tends to be the leading cause of negativity.

[Synrin]

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And even though they are bad and you actually give them advice, they don't listen. Tanks go 'oh you can't kick me, I do what I want, I am an irreplacable tank'. Then there is dps who won't listen to your advice despite you saying the same thing twice in the nicest possible way. They snap with a 'what do you know'... But I guess that's the 'people factor' of the game, and the only thing we can do is be the best ourselves. Because sometimes others can't be helped. I could do 50 dungeons a day if the groups were good without getting bored. Bring it on!

[Leigaon]

Is this a common experience for you? I mean love to talk about horror stories, but the last time I saw a rude player in-game was... I think a few months before Heavensward? I can't really recall.

Oh definitely! Sometimes I've gone in and the first thing someone says is "Can we please hurry? just get this done?" I've had people get mad at me for tanking and not pulling large amounts. When I first got PLD to 60 I was happy! I only had enough to buy a bit of Law gear, said I'm still working so I can't pull the entire zone. I'd get a mixed bag..either someone who helps me and says what they think I can pull, which was more than I thought. Others who got upset and pulled for me, and we ended up having major issues. Them being so much higher iLV than me.

I was doing a low level roulette and the healer kept stopping. Said his kid was crying so be a minute, one person said it's not their problem and tried to vote kick. I've had tanks quit on us because someone wasn't using raging strikes, or other cool downs and just went off on the poor guy. He was new and kept forgetting. Trial roulettes if anyone sees the new guy message, they will leave. Well not so much now with relic luckily.

On the flip side I've seen some real reasonable people. Exceptionally nice people who didn't mind taking the time to explain, not just to myself but to others if needed. What helped the most? Was if that person telling them what to do wasn't using the words "moron" "how hard is it to..." and the people in return try their best. Sure we didn't get through things the first try but everyone starts somewhere.

I think it's a two way street...if you're kinda and have time to help someone out that makes it easier. On the flip side, if someone gives you advice..it's because they care about getting stuff done and want to help. I'm not saying have a Jerry Springer moment and go with sappy music and a final thought, but at the same time dont' belittle people for things and in return don't get so offended over advice.

Also it's fair to say I've seen people take advice in a positive way. We were doing Cutters, and the healer had just bad gear. STR rings from level 20..and we were dying a lot on the second boss. He was 39, didn't have Leeches so the sludge was killing us. After looking at him I felt bad saying "it's your gear". He saw and explained that really the game so far has let the fairy do the work so he's just winged it and if we die again he will leave.

I loved that he took it so positive. He talked about how he would get better gear and it was an eye opener. Instead we worked with him, got him through the dungeon and did a full run. Even getting a few good pieces of free gear along the way.

I do see more bad players than bad people though...

[Kaurie]

Oh definitely! Sometimes I've gone in and the first thing someone says is "Can we please hurry? just get this done?"

I don't really consider that rude. Is there more context? Or perhaps I didn't phrase/quote well originally, my response was in regards to you in addition to the post you quoted about players being asses.

I've had people get mad at me for tanking and not pulling large amounts. When I first got PLD to 60 I was happy! I only had enough to buy a bit of Law gear, said I'm still working so I can't pull the entire zone. I'd get a mixed bag..either someone who helps me and says what they think I can pull, which was more than I thought. Others who got upset and pulled for me, and we ended up having major issues. Them being so much higher iLV than me.

Honestly, I get pretty annoyed at small pulls as well. This is mostly because I am a SMN, and doing small pulls handicaps me significantly. I never say as much in party except, "Hey, can you do larger pulls please? " or "Hey, can you do larger pulls, it makes timing Aetherflow stacks easier." etc. I'd say the best comparison would be a DPS kiting a mob around a tank, the mob may die and you can go on, but it was really annoying to the tank and handicapped their ability to do their job.

I was doing a low level roulette and the healer kept stopping. Said his kid was crying so be a minute, one person said it's not their problem and tried to vote kick. I've had tanks quit on us because someone wasn't using raging strikes, or other cool downs and just went off on the poor guy. He was new and kept forgetting.

Heh those are some crazy stories.

On the flip side I've seen some real reasonable people. Exceptionally nice people who didn't mind taking the time to explain, not just to myself but to others if needed. What helped the most? Was if that person telling them what to do wasn't using the words "moron" "how hard is it to..." and the people in return try their best. Sure we didn't get through things the first try but everyone starts somewhere.

Awesome! I try to be one of those people. Granted, it's pretty demotivating when the usual happens. I provide advice and usually it goes ignored. For example, we were in AV and kept dying and I asked the tank as the healer, "Hey, can you try to avoid the AoE Bad Breath, it's giving you a lot of debuffs and making it hard to keep you alive." He said nothing and continued to eat every single bad breath and didn't use any of the fruits to remove the debuffs. Eventually he left, and an FC mate joined and we cleared without further problem. Then, of course, there are the defensive players who do not react kindly to advice.

I think it's a two way street...if you're kinda and have time to help someone out that makes it easier. On the flip side, if someone gives you advice..it's because they care about getting stuff done and want to help. I'm not saying have a Jerry Springer moment and go with sappy music and a final thought, but at the same time dont' belittle people for things and in return don't get so offended over advice.

I agree, I think it plays largely in to how you phrase things. I think this is largely why I rarely see rude players, as I tend to try and speak as kindly as I can.

Also it's fair to say I've seen people take advice in a positive way. We were doing Cutters, and the healer had just bad gear. STR rings from level 20..and we were dying a lot on the second boss. He was 39, didn't have Leeches so the sludge was killing us. After looking at him I felt bad saying "it's your gear". He saw and explained that really the game so far has let the fairy do the work so he's just winged it and if we die again he will leave.

In all fairness, even in cruddy gear, Cutters is very easy to heal. I just did it with an average ilvl of 30 on my AST - and I had the ring that gives you +spiritbond, because I had nothing else. If that happens again, have them bring out Selene for Fey Caress - a level 20 pet skill that aoe removes debuffs.

I loved that he took it so positive. He talked about how he would get better gear and it was an eye opener. Instead we worked with him, got him through the dungeon and did a full run. Even getting a few good pieces of free gear along the way.

That's awesome

I do see more bad players than bad people though...

We need FFXIV to add a scrub tag more than a new mentor one!