Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[Konachibi]

Why 75%, there are many crafters on street want to contribute and fix your gear. Don't tell me that you really go to NPC fix thing. You see, we crafters are willing to help, and this is what we get for return.

Right... to save me smashing my head against a wall trying to grasp how you aren't able to grasp a simple premise...

Grand Companies are designed specifically for battle, the gear they give from marks are all designed for battle, the potions they give are designed for battle, they ARE a battle company, therefore, BATTLE classes join them, you can't have a battalion of Miners lining the ranks throwing stones at the enemy now can you? Chocobos are apparently rare in this game so they're only given to those deemed worthy of having one. That means people defending the country, risking their lives, take top priority. Some guy sitting on his ass making shoes so he can sell them for a lot of money has not earned the right to have a chocobo, because he is not risking his life in an attempt to save his country. Therefore he has to rent one, which costs him money, just as the battle class has to pay a crafter to repair his gear.

Every single change since yoshi took over has been free, you haven't had to pay a penny for it, and you're complaining just because amidst the huge pile of stuff you wanted that you are getting, there's just one little thing you aren't getting.

This is something people call UNGRATEFULL, and is frowned upon in todays society.

So stop being a spoiled little brat and deal with it, I have to deal with buying gear higher than my crafting rank can make, you can deal with not getting a chocobo untill chocobo breeding is implimented in a later patch.

If you are unable to deal with this, then you seriously need to go visit a psychiatrist or something because there's something seriously screwed up in your head.

[Valarian]

If you want to be full time gatherers or crafters you can be, no one's taking that away from you. But let me ask you this, say I wanted to 'play as I want' and I wanted to just be a Blacksmith and nothing else, could I get Blacksmith all the way to rank 50? No I couldn't, I'd HAVE to learn MINING to gather ore, in some cases I'd HAVE to learn Goldsmith or Armorsmith to make brass, I'd HAVE to find some form of income to buy materials I couldn't gather, I'd HAVE to find some way to get hold of crystals and shards. So can I play as I want if I just want to be a Blacksmith? No I can't.

So if you want your own chocobo, you're going to HAVE to learn a battle class.

These problems are overcome by trading with other players, doing leves, or slinking around the market wards. A personal chocobo can't be traded or sold.

These arguments still boil down to "I can't think of a reason why you shouldn't be allowed to have a chocobo as a non combat class, but you can't so suck it up."

Additionally the tone taken is one of aggressive disdain. There's little effort being made to understand the point being argued or to contribute to a discussion in a positive manner, though I think there were a couple of folks who gave it an honest shot.

The answer to the question "Why can't non battle classes get personal chocobos?" can't be "Because you can't."

[NoctisUmbra]

Alright alright, I don't think a topic about chocobos should be getting so heated.

Nothing good is going to come out of this, kweh~

[Konachibi]

Alright alright, I don't think a topic about chocobos should be getting so heated.

Nothing good is going to come out of this, kweh~

Eh, you're right. It just gets on my nerves when people are all "waaaah i can't get want i want, i demand this, i demand that waaaah".

I want to be able to fly around La Noscea on the back of a giant paper airplane dropping water bombs on marmots but I'm not raging on a thread demanding the patch be delayed and altered just so I can do that.

[NoctisUmbra]

The answer to the question "Why can't non battle classes get personal chocobos?" can't be "Because you can't."

The answer is that Grand Companies are battle content. Grand Company issued chocobos are therefore, by default, battle content. Just like you can't buy gear sold by the GCs in exchange for seals, you can't but a GC issued chocobo in exchange for seals if you are exclusively a DoH/L.

Did crafters complain about not being able to participate in the instanced raids when they were released? No.

If you are looking for a simple answer, that is it.

[Konachibi]

Also here's an easy analogy of the situation:

I want to be a Musketeer, the guild is already in the game, the gun models are already in the game, but I can't be one because Musketeer hasn't been added yet, so I have to wait untill it is.

Crafters want a personal chocobo, chocobos will be in 1.19, but they can't get one yet without a battle class because chocobo breeder hasn't been added yet, so they have to wait untill it is.

That sounds pretty reasonable, yes?

[Valarian]

The answer is that Grand Companies are battle content. Grand Company issued chocobos are therefore, by default, battle content. Just like you can't buy gear sold by the GCs in exchange for seals, you cannot but a GC issued chocobo in exchange for seals if you are exclusively a DoH/L.

Did crafters complain about not being able to participate in the instanced raids when they were released? No.

If you are looking for a simple answer, that is it.

That's not really the answer to the question I'm asking (Or meant to ask, anyway). I have no idea why people feel the need to fire back at this notion with so much vigor, either.

I'm not saying "Give me a chocobo nowz! RAWR". Nor am I saying "I want a grand company chocobo!". I'm saying that a means to earn a chocobo without having to level a battle class should be added. Do you agree Y/N? If you don't, I want to hear some plausible rationale why not.

I've never said that I didn't like the patch I was getting, nor have I said anything negative about the dev team. Unless development is going to stop at this point, though, now is the time to put in my two cents on this topic, even if people are going to try to flame me for it. There's one thread about it that I can see. the universe will probably permit that.

[Konachibi]

That's not really the answer to the question I'm asking (Or meant to ask, anyway). I have no idea why people feel the need to fire back at this notion with so much vigor, either.

I'm not saying "Give me a chocobo nowz! RAWR". Nor am I saying "I want a grand company chocobo!". I'm saying that a means to earn a chocobo without having to level a battle class should be added. Do you agree Y/N? If you don't, I want to hear some plausible rationale why not.

I've never said that I didn't like the patch I was getting, nor have I said anything negative about the dev team. Unless development is going to stop at this point, though, now is the time to put in my two cents on this topic, even if people are going to try to flame me for it. There's one thread about it that I can see. the universe will probably permit that.

Yes it is reasonable.

Being able to breed your own personal chocobo is being implimented in a later patch as the dev team have already said.

Problem solved.

Now I'm going to bed, happy in the knowledge that the problem has indeed been solved.

[Valarian]

Confusion: What happens when you find out your primary opponents in an argument agreed with you all along.

If anyone could show me where this post is on chocobo breeding, it'd be helpful. I can't seem to find it on my own.

[HiirNoivl]

Comparing Chocobos to instanced raids is not really appropriate.

Chocobo is a Final Fantasy staple. It's basic content. That's why the price is so low and it's so easy to get. It's not like crafters need an r50 DoW job, thank goodness. But on the other hand, why should they have to level a battle class to get basic content?

My gather friend will get his chocobo, he's very happy for that. It only takes a few leve resets. The principle of it still annoys him and he's still concerned that he will have to continue to level a class he does not enjoy in order to play basic content.

I hope this is not the case.