Crafters have no right to get their own Chocobos

[Cycloptichorn]

oh no the empire attacks the company and they have a caravan of supplies sitting in the camp, but there is no gear nor weapons in it because the company had no crafters to make the gear nor gatherers to get the materials for them. whatever are we to do?

Hah!

There'll always be plenty of gear available from the crafter base, even if you do want to cry in your beer about it. And why not? They've got nothing else to do but make gear.

The idea that a bunch of crafters would refuse to participate, because they are denied access to something which frankly they don't need, is something of a stretch.

[Konachibi]

Does it suck for those who only craft and gather? Yeah but I think people should be focusing all that negative energy on an actual practical solution.

Indeed, some don't realise that since 1.19 is still 7 days away, there's still ample time to get a class to 25.

It really doesn't take long, you can get from 1-15 within just 2 hours by killing stuff (I used La Noscea, and kill in the order of: Rat > Puk > Roseling), at that point pick up 8 battle leves, use guardians aspect on all of them and that's an easy rank 20, all within the space of a few hours. Only 5 ranks to gain then to join a GC and 6 1/2 days to get those in.

[Kiote]

Guys, the Empire is attacking!
That's the whole reason for the resurrection of the Grand Companies in the first place.

If you consider yourself a full time Miner, and a Garlean Soldier comes to slaughter your family, are you saying you WOULDNT swing your pickaxe at his face? Its a VERY small stretch to lvl up MRD.

But dont get me wrong...Pickaxes and Hatchets should definitely be able to hurt things.

The point of the Grand Companies as supported by ALL of the lore in the game including the lore that Yoshi just put in is to unite the Warriors Crafters and Gathers to build a Great army.

By forcing Crafters and Gatherers to Hit 25 to join they are essentially recanting on all of the lore about GCs up to this point.

[Kiote]

I thought i was well understood that it was Yoshi's intention to remove crafters and gathers from first-class citizenship and degrade them to second-class citizenship.

I am not sure why its shocking at this point.

It's not shocking, but that doesnt mean we are going to lay down and take it. There is a much larger Crafter/Gatherer population in this game than anyone thinks. It was a major Draw for players. People didnt leave because Crafting and Gathering sucked, they left because Battle sucked.

[Cycloptichorn]

The point of the Grand Companies as supported by ALL of the lore in the game including the lore that Yoshi just put in is to unite the Warriors Crafters and Gathers to build a Great army.

By forcing Crafters and Gatherers to Hit 25 to join they are essentially recanting on all of the lore about GCs up to this point.

You don't have to be 25 to join a company.

You do have to be 22 tho.

Imagine that these are horses, and we're talking about an army. You don't fight, you don't get a horse. Not a difficult concept.

Plus, airships will be up and running for those crafters who need to get between towns...

[Kiote]

For a long time repairing your own gear was incentive enough to level a crafting class, at least for myself and many people I knew.

Yeah, well they took that away from us...

[Kiote]

You don't have to be 25 to join a company.

You do have to be 22 tho.

Imagine that these are horses, and we're talking about an army. You don't fight, you don't get a horse. Not a difficult concept.

Plus, airships will be up and running for those crafters who need to get between towns...

Crafters have to travel to far more Aetheryte Camps than any Battle Class and in an Army suppliers get the vehicles not the grunts.

[StateAlchemist]

I am a full time crafter/gatherer, and I could care less about having a DoW/M requirement. After 1 year, my main characters highest combat class is 31 Thaumaturge. However, on my mule I leveled Lancer from 1-36 in 2 days. Level 25 requirement? If your complaining, your a fing wuss. Suck it up recruit.

[Valarian]

All I'm saying is that the future has been confirmed, time to stop crying and do something about it. You have a problem, find a productive solution. In this case that would be leveling a battle class to 25 minimum. It's not like it takes that much time, it's a minor inconvenience at worst.

Crafters and Gatherers as main classes was part of Tanaka's incomplete vision. It's what brought us Parley and a campaign with little to no actual battles. I mean what Final Fantasy game has a main story devoid of fighting? Yoshida has been steering us away from that and making crafters and gatherers more about utility and function than being able to do everything.

Does it suck for those who only craft and gather? Yeah but I think people should be focusing all that negative energy on an actual practical solution.

There's a lot more to the future than the patch they're releasing on October 4th. Raising a concern is not what I'd classify as negative energy. The time to say something is now, while things are still in their infancy.

The practical solution for a great many people is to quit. Some of these are people I knew and enjoyed playing with. Will 25 levels of Gladiator bring my friends back? I doubt it. The focus on battle classes for content is something I understand. A delay is something I can deal with. I think this should eventually be addressed, though, rather than swept under the rug.

Also, in response to the horses thing: Many many horses are employed for non-combat purposes. Horse drawn carriages, for example. I can't think of a country or era that restricted them to military use.

[Arcell]

Crafters have to travel to far more Aetheryte Camps than any Battle Class and in an Army suppliers get the vehicles not the grunts.

By far more you mean exactly the same amount right? I mean when battle classes do leves, they have to go to the camps. When crafting classes do leves they are at the same camps and occasionally still in the city. Ever since they revised the target camps for the crafting leves both types have been going to the exact same camps every reset if they're doing leves. You can grind out crafting just as much as you can grind battle.