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  1. #81
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    Valarian's Avatar
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    Celene Starlight
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    I think modes of transportation should be equal opportunity. I'd like to see the Grand Company that could function without supplies. Naturally the ones already announced need them or there wouldn't be much point in those caravan escorts.

    I don't see crafter/gatherers complaining that they can't participate in the Ifrit battle. We know fighting is for fighters. Delivering stuff, though, is a crafter's domain and gatherers probably move more distance than anyone in this game. Think about what would happen if a battle class had to pick up a sewing needle for 25 levels just to ride the airship.

    It's not right to exclude a minority because they're a minority.
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    いつか人は一人になって思い出の中に生きていくだけ。

  2. #82
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    This wasn't a surprise to me. Yoshi-P did say awhile ago that he was planning on making the primary focus on DoW/M, with crafting and gathering going into a secondary role.

    After all, this is Final Fantasy, not Harvest Moon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    Then, SE should remove crafting classes and gathering classes from character selection.
    I know YoshiP said that but I would of thought at least have a way for current gatherer/crafterer to get their chocobo's since they did start the game like Nini_Fisher is saying when you start this game you can choose to start with those class as "main" starting class.

    Oh well it's only few hours of leveling shouldn't hurt them too much, unless they are the type that doesn't want to touch DoM or DoW at all... they still got the 10 minute rental chocobo's i guess...
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    Then, SE should remove crafting classes and gathering classes from character selection.
    yes they should because of the games designed future and they probably should apologize for the idea in the first place because it is correct, the game was meant to cater to crafter heavy people but practically fell into the bubble of a crafting sim which is not what final fantasy is about.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

  4. #84
    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    Then, SE should remove crafting classes and gathering classes from character selection.
    Yes, they should.
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  5. #85
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    Aozora Gorre
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    To obtain a chocobo from a Grand Company, you are required to pledge your full allegiance to their cause, and to do that you must have achieved level 25 in any Discipline of War or Magic.
    /facepalm. Honestly, one step forward a dozen steps back.
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    Please SE stop feeding the trolls.


  6. #86
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    Nini_Fisher's Avatar
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    Pon Dudu
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    Aegis
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Abauge_Goga View Post
    lol .. this is funny.

    I don't think there are many people that don't have a DOW/DOM class to lvl 25, besides the new ones. What is the point of levelling craft jobs only, how would they craft the HQ's without some HQ mats that can only be obtained through battle..?
    Again, the point is that Yoshida turn his back on crafters and gatherers. Battle classes have their game contents, we, crafters, didn't bitch about it. However, "Chocobo" the signature of FF series, and we can't even get one of our own. Then, whatelse can keep us playing "FINAL FANTASY".
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    Last edited by Nini_Fisher; 09-28-2011 at 05:35 AM.

  7. #87
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Just take the time to level up a battle class. I think everyone should try out all aspects of the game anyway, and r25 isn't bad at all. If you refuse to do that when the option is open to you then you really have no excuse.
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  8. #88
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    To obtain a chocobo from a Grand Company, you are required to pledge your full allegiance to their cause, and to do that you must have achieved level 25 in any Discipline of War or Magic.
    Wow, they are just all about pointing out their design flaws lately huh?
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  9. #89
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    Abauge Decebalus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nini_Fisher View Post
    Again, the point is that Yoshida turn his back on crafters and gatherers. Battle classes have their game contents, we, crafters, didn't bitch about it. However, "Chocobo" the signature of FF series, and we can't even get one of our own. Then, whatelse can keep us playing "FINAL FANTASY".
    I see your point being frustrated that SE turned their backs on crafters, but seriously, rank 25 is not that bad. Even FFXI had lvl 20 as a minimum requirement, if i'm not mistaken. Plus, I really do not see the point in not having at least a rank 50 DOW or DOM going back to my HQ item farming. You may be relying on LS members to farm for you, but that would limit a player in a way in my opinion.

    To each its own, but what SE is doing is not that bad.
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  10. #90
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    Kiote Corissimo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    Just take the time to level up a battle class. I think everyone should try out all aspects of the game anyway, and r25 isn't bad at all. If you refuse to do that when the option is open to you then you really have no excuse.
    While I agree with your sentiment of trying everything, it's not really fair. DoW/M aren't forced to learn a craft in order to gain access to all of the games content. If SE is going to do something like this, they need to add a serious perk for crafters and gatherers to balance things out.
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