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  1. #31
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    good idea , is has been asked before for surveys on login , or after finishing the MSQ , a dungeon (was the dungeon well populated? too much trash ? bosses were fun? your job was usefull ? ) , crafting , and of course events (lords of vermilion , chocobo racing)...

    as reward for the surveys , give some gil? materias? a pet after helping with multiple surveys.

    (B&S has surveys too and is awesome, u feel important!)
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    good idea , is has been asked before for surveys on login , or after finishing the MSQ , a dungeon (was the dungeon well populated? too much trash ? bosses were fun? your job was usefull ? ) , crafting , and of course events (lords of vermilion , chocobo racing)...

    as reward for the surveys , give some gil? materias? a pet after helping with multiple surveys.

    (B&S has surveys too and is awesome, u feel important!)
    Incentives are generally not a good idea to get accurate results. I'd say a rather overwhelming number of us would, eventually, just choose "C" straight down the list or give useless feedback like "......." just to fill up space after our 3rd or so survey. That or we'd end up complaining about how ineffective such a survey is because incentives are not enough to get people to do it... and I guarantee that one will come up. It's just a survey, and honestly should be left to a means that isn't so in-your-face as incentivizing them would be (candy to a baby) or it being something in the mailbox and its notification. Something alongside the suggestions link however, I think that's fine. If people truly do want to provide harmless feedback for the content patch in the game they care about, incentives are not needed. Actually, the mailbox thing isn't a big deal neither, since it'd be like... once every 3 months or so.

    Having said that, you have to remember that incentives for surveys are generally only appropriate when it's something that has little to no negative potential for the final product. Incentives to get people to share something on Facebook or RT something on Twitter, for example, generally have no meaningful potential to negatively impact their goal. Taking feedback about an opinion of a large body of people about the future of the product, however, is a different matter. Times that feedback based on opinion is incentivized are generally done in a manner that isn't widely taken advantage of (due to uncommon occurrence) or done in a form that they profit from regardless, such as partnerships and ad revenue.

    Another thing to keep in mind, however, is that feeling of importance. Recall the issue with RMT in this game. How they told people to report them on their POS report UI, and gave the impression that they'll do something about it. When people took the time to report using that convoluted trainwreck, how far did that get any players feeling of importance as time went on and things were left as they were? When a game is new, and you leave feedback, you're going to feel important because of the situation. When your feedback is repeatedly left unattended to for so long, however, you'll likely sing a different tune. Devs/GMs/CMs won't react to every little thing, nor will they acknowledge even 95% of their feedback. You won't learn this until some time has passed after the product has been established/released. This is mostly aimed at the more successful of games however. The worse off that a games populous is (meaning the less players there are to take criticism from), the more likely you'll see responses in some degree to the littleman... assuming they even care at that point lol. One might argue that it's a different matter than the survey in question, but it's still critique or feedback. If you're happy about something and it changes, or unhappy and it doesn't change, time and time again as the months/years go by... will you still feel so important to take the time to do a meaningful survey?
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 02-09-2016 at 11:21 AM.

  3. #33
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    Didn't read the whole thread, but I think implementing such a thing in the ways described would be a bad thing. I'm guessing you got this idea from BnS, or from some beta testing. IMO, it makes the game less immersive. I would be all for something appearing on the character select screen, or even the launcher. However, it should remain out of the actual world.
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    I'm with you on incentives should not be given just because I think bots will take advantage of it.
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    Actually no I did not get the idea from other games. Actually I got the idea from going to Disney World and I was asked questions about rides and the over feel of the park. As I said earlier it would not break immersion just put it in the mog box or grand company.

    If you feel that there HAS TO BE lore behind it. As usual they could come up with something like they always do. ( Have no desire in lore or immersion just content. I even skip dungeon /story cut scenes because like most others IN GAME don't really care). Example lore would be said grand company would like feed back on your recent adventures..... .
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimelessShine View Post
    Actually no I did not get the idea from other games. Actually I got the idea from going to Disney World and I was asked questions about rides and the over feel of the park. As I said earlier it would not break immersion just put it in the mog box or grand company.

    If you feel that there HAS TO BE lore behind it. As usual they could come up with something like they always do. ( Have no desire in lore or immersion just content. I even skip dungeon /story cut scenes because like most others IN GAME don't really care). Example lore would be said grand company would like feed back on your recent adventures..... .
    Oh, you got it from a theme park, but a game is not like a theme park, not for all at least. Don't get a too narrowminded point of view. There are players who don't rush from ride to ride like in a theme park.
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    here are the replies from polls: nerf everything, it's too hard/takes too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Oh, you got it from a theme park, but a game is not like a theme park, not for all at least.
    This game is at least. The term "theme park MMO" exists for real reasons.

    That said, I'd support a feedback system just so I could include a comment in the text box to say "more than 2 dungeons for Expert roulette please."
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  9. #39
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    I don't see how you get a simple survey idea being narrow minded????? Anyways surveys help a game and like I said before the more players who are willing to do survey at then end of a content patch the better. Can't keep getting one sided answers from the forums.
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    SE used to email us poll's in 1.0 and that is what they are currently using to put stuff in the game. If you look it up..you'll see what I mean. ^^

    I think they should still do this. The only problem was the timing of the polls...:/
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