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    A related gripe about this, I wish Squeenix would sync the casting animations with the cast time. It's like what Ulan said, getting damaged when you're well out of the area. But it's also not taking any damage at all even though, cosmetically, you've taken the full brunt of it as well. It's a real head scratcher why they do AoE like that. :\
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    omg I wish I had had that back then when I was telling people that I was way out of the aoe and getting hit nonetheless EXACTLY at Titan Ex , all insulting me for not being able to dodge.. omg finally a video to show people that it is exactly what is happening ...FINALLY !!!

    and yes, the only way to dodge is pre-dodge, or, better said, move before anything happens on your screen, otherwise you might as well stop trying those.

    As for WFast, for my own person situation, it didnt help whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Schmoe View Post
    A related gripe about this, I wish Squeenix would sync the casting animations with the cast time. It's like what Ulan said, getting damaged when you're well out of the area. But it's also not taking any damage at all even though, cosmetically, you've taken the full brunt of it as well. It's a real head scratcher why they do AoE like that. :\
    What's funny about this, is it only happens for certain attacks. I think it might have something to do with being a "unique" AoE that is affected by position/movement/etc. There have been times where I literally evade an attack at the very last second.
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    The game gives you time to dodge until the enemy's cast bar get past 80% or something. If you're slower than that you'll get hit no matter what.

    If you have bad latency between your system and the server, it would be worse.

    and yeah... playing on an EU server from Australia is not a good idea.
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    it is most likely ping but I will mention this just in case your quite new to the game. The orange telegraphed aoes (can be different colours and effects in certain bosses) snapshot your position at the moment they disappear so you still get hit despite the fact you have moved well away from the animation itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathelas View Post
    Back when the lag was worse than it is now, people suggested using an ability as soon as you're out of the AoE. This forces the game to update your position whereas with the lag and the natural delay between ticks on sending the server your info can make you feel like you're gettin hit with aoe's you shouldn't be because the game still thinks you're there.
    so thats why I sometimes get hit and sometimes not o-o
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post
    I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
    http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

    Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.
    This ... happened in every Run and I swore to myself, I'm not going to run any of Titan Trials anymore after I have done the Extreme Version of it. (I did it so ya...)

    I know that feeling very well when Content is going to punish you during lag times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UlanX View Post
    Thank you we will take this on board. I have a legacy character on Ragnarok so we wanted to stay there but may have to rethink at some point
    You can transfer legacy characters now to any server. It's about $20 AUD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UlanX View Post
    So is there a special technique to managing aoe's in FFXIV?
    I also play from Australia. My standard ping is 270 to the NA servers. I used to have some extreme difficulty being out of markers on time. Since i started I've pretty much had to be moving before a marker got placed in order to evade it.

    Ping spikes were actually the source of the issue more than the actual latency itself. It never stayed stable at 270. In a 10 second period, it could and often did fluctuate from as low as 230 to upwards of 500.

    For me, the solution was WTFast. Not only did my Mudras activate properly every time, i was also able to reliably dodge AoEs i struggled with previously.
    On WTFast my ping is now a rocksolid 240 (not much of an improvement over the average 270 before), however it never spikes or deviates by more than 1 - 3 in either direction.

    There are other services that offer a similar experience, but personally, WTFast is working extremely well for me.
    I'd recommend downloading it and trying the $2 one off payment (There's a free option too, but ads, bleh) for a couple days of subscription access. If it doesn't work for you, just delete it and move on lol.
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    Just as an aside on this, the video here has a good explanation of lag and rubber-banding. I cut past all the fluff at the beginning of the episode right to where he actually starts talking about the important stuff. Just a good bit of info for anyone wondering about why this all actually happens:
    MMO Combat, The FIGHT Against Lag! - Digressing and Sidequesting
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