Avoiding AOE attacks - taking damage when outside of the AOE

[UlanX]

Hi All,

Apologies if this has already been discussed, I'm sure it has at some point. Google has only come up with very general answers but I am after some specific information from people currently playing the game.

My husband and I both play and are having a lot of difficulty with aoe attacks. Even when we are well out of the area by the time the cast bar is full we still seem to be taking damage.

We're both fairly seasoned MMO players so we are use to handling aoe's and the need for quick response times but are finding it difficult to come up with a solution when playing FFXIV.

We are based in Australia and understand this increases ping but to date that hasn't been a massive problem in other games.

So is there a special technique to managing aoe's in FFXIV? At this point we are both sticking to ranged classes as melee and tank classes are not playable for us due to this.

[Cathelas]

Back when the lag was worse than it is now, people suggested using an ability as soon as you're out of the AoE. This forces the game to update your position whereas with the lag and the natural delay between ticks on sending the server your info can make you feel like you're gettin hit with aoe's you shouldn't be because the game still thinks you're there.

[Jynx]

Check your ping to see what kind of delay your looking at. Also recently the servers are having some pretty bad rubber banding during peak hours. Hell I have 100ms ping to the servers and at times my character is allover the place due to packets dropping left and right.

[Nihility]

well australia to the middle of canada will likely have some amount of latency issues, a vpn like wtfast might route you a better way possibly but maybe not

the other issue is this game has kind of wonky low polling rate for determining position and facing. Supposedly jumping will force it to refresh your position
basically you have to get out of aoe stuff or face away from petrifaction or whatever it is long before it actually casts or your at the mercy of the server ticks

[CyrilLucifer]

I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.

[Pence]

You're playing on the EU datacenter? I'd suggest moving to Tonberry, it's the unofficial oceanic server on the JP datacenter - it's mostly an English speaking server, however the DF is largely JP. Also you should think about using WTFast or Pingzapper. You'll see crazy improvements with these changes.

I was raiding AS3 on Sarg (NA) at around 270 ping - so it's doable at high latency. It just means you have to memorize everything and time it near perfect to not be a burden on your team. When I moved to Tonberry I was cut down to around 180ish ping. This is from NW TAS.

[AsteriaStarfall]

Basically depending on your lag, once that cast bar reaches 75% on your screen the damage has already been calculated server side. Be out before then.

[Whiteroom]

Until you figure out a real fix, I've read that when you change movement direction, the server auto updates your location. So, try running out of the AOE and then to the side for a step.

Also it's a long way to the EU data center from you, definately look into that.

[UlanX]

I'll just leave this here, back from before the first "fix." Snarky commentary was mocking people claiming there isn't lag.
http://i.imgur.com/oLZp8hl.gif

Basically, if you're like me and have issues, you need to pre-dodge. Learn mechanics and know to predict what's coming next.

This exact thing happened to me yesterday and I was gobsmacked thinking WTF? I was no where near it

Edited for spelling

[UlanX]

You're playing on the EU datacenter? I'd suggest moving to Tonberry, it's the unofficial oceanic server on the JP datacenter - it's mostly an English speaking server, however the DF is largely JP. Also you should think about using WTFast or Pingzapper. You'll see crazy improvements with these changes.

I was raiding AS3 on Sarg (NA) at around 270 ping - so it's doable at high latency. It just means you have to memorize everything and time it near perfect to not be a burden on your team. When I moved to Tonberry I was cut down to around 180ish ping. This is from NW TAS.

Thank you we will take this on board. I have a legacy character on Ragnarok so we wanted to stay there but may have to rethink at some point