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  1. #41
    Player
    Callback's Avatar
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    Callback Spanner
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    The mentor system seesm to be more about the ins and outs of the actual jobs/roles themselves than about tactics on a specific boss or dungeon. So in this context, knowing the break points for single target vs aoe dps on your job/role while being able to efficiently maximize output would be more valuable than knowing to bait the fire to the side of the ring on the second boss of Keeper or to turn away from petrifaction so you don't turn to stone. Dungeons strats are pretty self evident in most cases and easily explained. The goal of the mentor system is to have experienced players help newer players learn the ins and outs of their job/roles. Knowing a boss strat and knowing which drg OGCDS can be double weaved without clipping are two very separate things.
    So clearing 1k instances with 300 comms by tanking lets you know how to do DRG rotations... how? If they wanted it to be based on individual classes, then make a system that looks at those classes specifically. Lock it behind a quest that makes you clear a sampling of endgame raids on that class to prove yourself worthy. Create solo instance trials that check players' competence in that job's role, and the types of situations they would need to react to. Think the gatekeeper from TSW.
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  2. #42
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    GleepWurp's Avatar
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    Mandos Meikle
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 66
    It'll take me awhile yet to get to the dungeon instance requirement (currently between 100 and 300), but it looks like I should easily hit the commendation requirement by the time I do (currently 132). I was more taken aback by the requirement to have a healer at 60, since I really only play DPS or tank, but I was already starting to work on Summoner and realized that I can just take advantage of the freebie Scholar. ;-)
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  3. #43
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    Torunya's Avatar
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    Character
    Lindis Hrafnvandrar
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by GleepWurp View Post
    but I was already starting to work on Summoner and realized that I can just take advantage of the freebie Scholar. ;-)
    Shhh! Don't tell anyone. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Where's my daily baked deliciousness, Toruyna?

  4. #44
    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaurie Lorhart
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Torunya View Post
    Shhh! Don't tell anyone. >.>
    "Hi! I'm Mentor Kaurie. I'll tell you how to healz! First, do the thing. You know um, heal the tank. I hope that I was of great service, and see you next time!"
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  5. #45
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    Character
    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    even the 1000 instance requirement is not that much if you just grind lvl 25 story ifrit unsynced...
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  6. #46
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Character
    Kuwagami Tarynke
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 78
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    even the 1000 instance requirement is not that much if you just grind lvl 25 story ifrit unsynced...
    still 500 minutes D: Not anyone can bear the pain of those types of grind xD

    1 min Westwind runs, zeta farm. Never forget
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  7. #47
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    Character
    Blitz Ace
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    i find it amazing how people actually complain about something as the mentor system requirements.
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  8. #48
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Character
    Famine Cruor
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    You should stop. You're only embarrassing yourself.
    He might have a point there. Being hardened to the travails of duty finder is valuable. Impressive is the man who can walk through mud without losing a sandal.
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  9. #49
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    He might have a point there.
    he might, if there was any other way to get a comm other than through DF.
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  10. #50
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    Character
    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
    So clearing 1k instances with 300 comms by tanking lets you know how to do DRG rotations... how? If they wanted it to be based on individual classes, then make a system that looks at those classes specifically. Lock it behind a quest that makes you clear a sampling of endgame raids on that class to prove yourthat has worthy. Create solo instance trials that check players' competence in that job's role, and the types of situations they would need to react to. Think the gatekeeper from TSW.
    Exactly. It seems to be more geared towards teaching dungeon basics and party roles, not individual job/class/skill teaching. Just because someone has whm to 60 doesn't mean they're going to know about sch, but they can teach someone not to cast while tank is pulling, how to prepare for tankbusters, aoe dmg, which is good. But we'll still get blms that can't figure out their rotation or bards that don't keep straight shot up.
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