STR tank items :C

[RHarris1349]

NIN was /released/ like that though. NIN was never STR based, it came out as a DEX dps. I get what you're saying, I can read the stats in Character Screen, but Tanks have already been established. Only DRK is somewhat new and it still has been parallel to what the stats read out to be. Now they want to change it to pander to players like Awful (who I would reply to, but she just repeats what I already say, so there's no point) who needs it to be "fair" in their own way of thinking.

As for pentamelded jewelry, tbh I've never seen a need for jewelry that op. I've cleared Coils without it, got very far on Savage without it and I'm only 204. Hell, just look at Exodus, we've got FCs with A4S clears that clear it weekly. No pentamelded items on those BAMFs. I know I'm asking for a lot of negative responses, but what's the point of those? Are we trying to clear raids asap and not farm any gear?

[RHarris1349]

The reasons listed above are also my way of stating I don't believe /most/ of the tactics that are stated by "HC" players. You can't tell me I can't do Alexander, Savage or not, with my current gear because I've already done it. You can't tell me it's not possible when it's already been achieved, and not someone else, /me/. I've done it so where are you at?

I also want to state I'm not /trying/ to be sarcastic, or cut off. I want feedback! I want to discuss!

[Reynhart]

NIN was /released/ like that though. NIN was never STR based, it came out as a DEX dps. I get what you're saying, I can read the stats in Character Screen, but Tanks have already been established.

Yes, and it's been established that VIT is our main stat since we can only need on VIT accessories.
So, it totally makes sense that our main stats is what helps us achieve high damage numbers, since it works that way for every other job.

Maybe you've never seen a need for pentamelded accessories, but it's not really the point. You just need a highly vocal minority saying it's mandatory to see everyone parroting it, even though they have no real idea as to how it really changes anything. Once the word is spread out, it's too late.

[RHarris1349]

In all honesty before HW I used to be a VIT tank, and it was a great build. Loved it. But as I experimented more and got my buffs down I've turned into a STR tank that gave me many more advantages even over WARs (I'm a pally) Now all that is null and I just don't see a point in taking away diversity (on top of never ending housing decorations) when I wish the time would be used for more classes, or weapons, or anything really. (Except for housing decorations, lol)

My skepticism would end if this change balanced the 3 tank classes more. In this respect, I'm hoping for the best. But I still think it an unneeded change and it's just pandering. I wish the time was used for more battle classes, fixing issues crafters have, and more battle classes! Shouldn't we have a few coming out!? It's almost been a year, is there even progress? But no all updates are little fix to nothing this, and that and more housing fixtures because housing housing housing. The whole thing is driving me bonkers

[Awful]

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These changes are needed to fix balancing issues that Pld/War/Drk all have, right now is not pandering, people want these desired changes for the most part only the people who are claiming there's no diversity haven't realized what a tank is. People are tired of being a glorified DPS that can outdps either sub par DPS or really bad DPS hell I can push over 1k-1100 DPS in Alex Savage it's the provided support I can give once I know the fight and can give the DPS when it's needed.

If you loved being VIT then why would you refute it now? VIT is going to be our main stat as it should be, It's not pandering for the community to want what a tank is that's all i'm saying I want to be able to get an upgrade I can need on and not have to fight my DPS for it, it's not uneeded, tanks were the only class that required to pentameld in order to push content. A big reason why people are clearing As1-2 so easily now is because people overgear the content for the rewards they give, full ilvl 205-209 geared people can clear it without a problem, that was a huge issue about Alex Savage the rewards didn't justify the effort.