Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVII Lore Discussion

[Zebyxus]

I was thinking more along the lines of something truly gritty and engaging.

I agree with you, to a point. I enjoy a good story as much as the next person but you can't have it all doom and gloom without something to lighten the moment. The craziness in the Hildibrand quests is that balance for the rest of the game, which despite some light-hearted moments and whitty scenes, still retains an overly serious note upon all things, yes even grinding.

As a lore nut, I'd prefer more lore quests, hell even a library in game with books to read that detail various aspects. I was sad in Grubal Library because I couldn't stop to read the books, which while a distraction from the dungeon's point, provided some unique insights into the world of Eorzea at large which until that point hadn't even been touched on, for example, the naming sytem of Garlemald (Livia Sans Junius vs. Lucia Goe Junius though they're sisters).

[Nestama]

I agree with you, to a point. I enjoy a good story as much as the next person but you can't have it all doom and gloom without something to lighten the moment. The craziness in the Hildibrand quests is that balance for the rest of the game, which despite some light-hearted moments and whitty scenes, still retains an overly serious note upon all things, yes even grinding.

I see this more as a problem, rather than a 'solution,' as this is exactly why I find Hildibrand quests so jarring. Why must the comedy be excluded into a single quest-line? What's wrong with putting more humour/comedy and light hearted scenes (that do not feel forced!) within the MSQ?

As Theodric said, I enjoyed the lore with Ul'dah and Sil'dah, but... the comedy in Hildibrand quests is just so forced (and mostly the same. It became stale).

[Belhi]

I see this more as a problem, rather than a 'solution,' as this is exactly why I find Hildibrand quests so jarring. Why must the comedy be excluded into a single quest-line? What's wrong with putting more humour/comedy and light hearted scenes (that do not feel forced!) within the MSQ?

As Theodric said, I enjoyed the lore with Ul'dah and Sil'dah, but... the comedy in Hildibrand quests is just so forced (and mostly the same. It became stale).

People have different tastes I guess.

For me I don't really want much humour or comedy in the MSQ. I think it would undermine the drama of it. Little things like some of the interactions with Krile and the other Scions are fine but more than that I think would be counterproductive to the story's immersion.

[Nestama]

People have different tastes I guess.

For me I don't really want much humour or comedy in the MSQ. I think it would undermine the drama of it. Little things like some of the interactions with Krile and the other Scions are fine but more than that I think would be counterproductive to the story's immersion.

Use FFXI for reference (spoilers for those still playing FFXI): https://youtu.be/VEkdAOVbxVY (mostly serious, has a moment of stupid humour and then...)
I feel FFXIV is also lacking dark humour (black comedy, or whatever), which could easily be put here and there within the MSQ.

[Belhi]

Use FFXI for reference (spoilers for those still playing FFXI): https://youtu.be/VEkdAOVbxVY (mostly serious, has a moment of stupid humour and then...)
I feel FFXIV is also lacking dark humour (black comedy, or whatever), which could easily be put here and there within the MSQ.

That could be a decision based on the tone they are aiming for. While FF14 certainly has embraced some darker themes I don't think they want to make it too dark. Their choice of humour is I think intentional to offset the darker elements of the Main Story and the world. Black comedy generally doesn't do that.

[CyrilLucifer]

So, back to Sephirot.
Prerequisites: Players must first complete the main scenario quest "As Goes Light, So Goes Darkness" and have also completed the quest "Gods of Eld."

Totally-not-Elidibus-or-Elidibus'-servant is officially upgraded to MSQ, as Gods of Eld is the pre-BisEx and RavEx story mission, if you did them in 3.0 it was titled differently. Both modes of the battle require this, not just the Extreme mode. This seems to be one of those many side stories running tandem that SE said they were doing with 3.X.

Who's excited for more Elidibus? You, yes you! You better be.

[Rocl]

So, back to Sephirot.
Prerequisites: Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Heavensward," and have also completed the quest "Gods of Eld."

Totally-not-Elidibus-or-Elidibus'-servant is officially upgraded to MSQ, as Gods of Eld is the pre-BisEx and RavEx story mission, if you did them in 3.0 it was titled differently. Both modes of the battle require this, not just the Extreme mode. This seems to be one of those many side stories running tandem that SE said they were doing with 3.X.

Who's excited for more Elidibus? You, yes you! You better be.

Fun fact: They've updated it now to: Players must first complete the main scenario quest "As Goes Light, So Goes Darkness" and have also completed the quest "Gods of Eld."

Which excites me that it will not be more, how do you say, intertwined with the MSQ than a sidestory. Still don't need to clear Ravana or Bismarck though, which is a bit weird (you defeat them to stop them from waking up the Triad either accidentally or on purpose) but not really complaining as long as the Triad quests continue to at least need MSQ progress!