Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVII Lore Discussion

[VargasVermillion]

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised to see Limsa and Ul'dah having torturers, or at least Ul'dah. Limsa, being founded by pirates, probably has its own interesting and rather horrible ways of punishing or forcing information out of people.

One of the thief quests when you question a guard mentions they used thumbscrews on a merchant who was thought to be smuggling items who was in fact innocent and unaware of the goods they confiscated. so yes, they likely do torture every now and then. You can bet many of the garlean spies the alliance have interrogated involved torture.

EDIT: forgot to mention it was a limsan guard.

[Dualblade]

On Hildebrand himself...while it wouldn't surprise me if he shows up in the Scholastice questline (the fact that you have to complete the previous Hilde quests being some evidence for it, though it could just be so they don't have to deal with Briardien being stuck up at us again), but someone earlier mentioned the Doma kids and I think that would also be an excellent place to put him. We had a small mystery there, one of the kids looks up to him, and it ended with enough evidence that it'll eventually continue.

[Theodric]

So, uh, does that mean we have to complete Bismarck & Ravana (EX) to tackle the Triad stuff?

[CyrilLucifer]

So, uh, does that mean we have to complete Bismarck & Ravana (EX) to tackle the Triad stuff?

I don't think so, I think you just need to finish the quest before the two Extreme primals. But still, do it. For Elidibus!

[Theodric]

I don't think so, I think you just need to finish the quest before the two Extreme primals. But still, do it. For Elidibus!

Oh, right. I've done that - I think. I never got around to doing Bis EX or Rav EX though. Mostly because I main a tank and within a few days of launching 99% of the parties wanted someone with experience.

Then again I didn't do many of the 2.0 EX modes until later in the expansion so I'll get them done eventually.

...and I found out yesterday there's a limit on the amount of posts per day here. :[

[FeliAiko]

It's still a side story though, albeit one that's likely to be referenced at some point during the MSQ. Seems like the idea is from Patch launch you can go straight to unlocking the Story and Extreme modes of the fight, rather than directly weaving the former into the MSQ plotline, then gating the latter behind the current MSQ completion, like with previous Primals.

[CyrilLucifer]

It's still a side story though, albeit one that's likely to be referenced at some point during the MSQ. Seems like the idea is from Patch launch you can go straight to unlocking the Story and Extreme modes of the fight, rather than directly weaving the former into the MSQ plotline, then gating the latter behind the current MSQ completion, like with previous Primals.

See, I don't see this at all. I see it as them doing the 2.X HM primals again. Originally, Ifrit/Titan/Garuda HM weren't required, but were eventually necessary to progress in 2.X.

That's almost certainly what's going on here. It won't be required as of now, but will be later. That's why I'm considering it MSQ.

[ExKage]

See, I don't see this at all. I see it as them doing the 2.X HM primals again. Originally, Ifrit/Titan/Garuda HM weren't required, but were eventually necessary to progress in 2.X.

That's almost certainly what's going on here. It won't be required as of now, but will be later. That's why I'm considering it MSQ.

I found out belatedly that the exact patch that Titan HM is required (and as it is the last in its chain, Ifrit and Garuda) came out in either 2.5 or 2.55.

I would agree with you as the quest required does not require Bismarck EX and Ravana EX completion but it requires a story portion quest that unlocks the quests for the Extreme versions. Not unlike the quests that led to Binding Coil of Bahamut or Ifrit/Garuda/Titan HMs.

[Chewy2nd]

I kinda like having the two seperated, it means the MSQ doesnt suddenly detract for a few quests to deal with The Primal Of The Month. As long as it eventually tied back in, I'm happy, lol.

[Frederick22]

Im really onfuse at this point . So the Hard Mode version will be part of Main Scenario yes or not?