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  1. #41
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    I'm not sure how it works on a keyboard, but on a controller you can pre-set the direction and distance you want from skills like Shukuchi that require an AoE marker to be set.
    It's clunkier on PC, from my understanding, especially if you don't regularly use the mouse much, though I've never done it on gamepad to be sure exactly of how it works. Everyone tells me the gamepad method is far superior, though.

    I pretty much only use Shukuchi when I'm messing around or for very telegraphed movements, as trying to use it in a reactionary fashion is a pain due to needing to place the AoE marker. It's more problematic in a lot of situations where you need to use it to move quickly if you also need to move your camera at all, since they're both attached to the same input (the mouse).
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  2. #42
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    Ira Malcolm
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I'm sure Freeze and Bliz II have their very niche uses for knockback things like the Gobtank in Brayflox and Einhander in Keeper; aside from that, I'm really not sure why they're on my bar.

    Stella, on the other hand, is almost entirely useless.
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  3. #43
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    Rasha'zi Molkoh
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    Jenova
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    Rogue Lv 60
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  4. #44
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    Rasha'zi Molkoh
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    Shukuchi easily. I actually had to look it's name up before posting because I had actually completely forgotten it. And the worst part is it seems like it could be a cool skill to use but it's just pointless.
    You have to be pretty quick on it's use and kind of preemptively know what you want to do but it does have uses for animation clipping/glitching of skills like Doton. You can cast Doton then Shukuchi this then procs the effects as if the mobs entered into the AoE on their own.

    Again tho.. gotta be a little quick with the press or yeah it's a waste to click -> then aim the reticlue -> then skill use when you can likely run over and start hitting a mob outside of visual range.
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  5. #45
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    Raela Sarinelle
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Also, to OP: You should use Elusive jump because it drops your aggro to zero.
    I thought it was halved, not to 0? I sometimes need it for an unfamiliar tank, especially in trial roulette. Or if the MT dies and I'm #2, OT #3.
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  6. #46
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Dissipation- beyond useless, only ever used it for pvp once and twice, disappointing heavensward skill
    The Warden's Paean- has very few moments of use, cast a bit to long for it to be used midbattle, so another disappointing heavensward skill
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  7. #47
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    Kaya Solimar
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Freeze. Probably the most useless skill in the game... So worthless....
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  8. #48
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    Gryphon Fyre
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 80
    Wondering about the applications of One-Ilm Punch...

    I only really acknowledged its existence soloing the beast tribe FATES (I think during the quest to access Labyrinth of the Ancients) where you had to get crystals from bosses, and they ALL habitually casted Stoneskin on themselves. Helped save time but eh.

    Haymaker is the occasional free hit that will never happen unless tank loses aggro and by then you're probably dead, again only useful for soloing.
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  9. #49
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    Saiah Brea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ykronix View Post
    Wondering about the applications of One-Ilm Punch...

    I only really acknowledged its existence soloing the beast tribe FATES (I think during the quest to access Labyrinth of the Ancients) where you had to get crystals from bosses, and they ALL habitually casted Stoneskin on themselves. Helped save time but eh.

    Haymaker is the occasional free hit that will never happen unless tank loses aggro and by then you're probably dead, again only useful for soloing.
    They should add more dispellable buffs for bosses etc so monks have more utility. Something that will even the odds with DRG and NIN's partywide dps boosts.
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  10. #50
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Quelling strikes. Tanks need to git gud
    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    But I like trying to rip hate off tanks. It's fun lol. I mean it rarely ever happens but when it does I get a big smile on my face xD
    I actually had someone fail to use Quelling Strikes in their opener and burst high enough to rip hate off me in Thordan EX a couple of weeks ago. Thordan turned and immediately cleaved the entire party, OHKO'ing almost everyone amid a chorus of shock and disbelief.

    I didn't even have to say crap. I was laughing while the rest of the DPS ripped him a new one for wasting their openers. xD
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