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  1. #21
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chiramu View Post
    I find it a waste of time from my MCH rotation too, maybe cause I find there is a lot of other things to think about then an ability that has no combo to it.
    It's not for the rotation
    it's for when you have to move and you can't do a normal attack. Obviously not longer than 2-3 GCDs, at that point just turn off the Barrel and do your rotation.
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  2. #22
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    AskaRay's Avatar
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    nah it's good when tank pulls the entire dungeons and there are magic users all over the place so that large circle aoe is handy then or when you are far away from enemies and you can't use quick nock yet.
    Sooo like? One GCD then. Okay, I guess.
    I just use my DOTs and wait for the cool raining procs to rain down.
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  3. #23
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    Morzy's Avatar
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    Character
    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 90
    One ilm punch. Haymaker.

    Haymaker is all fine for solo but you wont catch it during raid.
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  4. #24
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    Aria Ashford
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Oh hello, Repose.
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  5. #25
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    TheCurls's Avatar
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    Character
    Aija Dal
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    One Ilm Punch (outside of PvP) is all but entirely worthless. It's up against two very good skills for that section of the combo, costs a ton of TP, does squat for damage, and almost nothing worthwhile can actually be punched off. The last boss I can recall it working on was the final boss of Haukke Manor (Hard)'s stoneskin effect. I mean, it works on the Attack Up from Whistle on those Dhalmel enemies in Neverreap too... for... what that's worth... which isn't anything.

    In PvP it's great, but it could have just been a PvP-only skill.
    Only time I ever used One-Ilm Punch was during those ixal fates in Coerthas that cast Stoneskin on their massive HP pool.
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  6. #26
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Shukuchi easily. I actually had to look it's name up before posting because I had actually completely forgotten it. And the worst part is it seems like it could be a cool skill to use but it's just pointless.
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  7. #27
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Haymaker is so useless once you get out of the baby levels, I don't even bother keeping it on my hotbar. One Ilm Punch isn't much better. I also rarely touch Fist of Earth or Wind, but they at least have some use.
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  8. #28
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    Cynric's Avatar
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    Cynric Caliburn
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Haymaker 100% useless skill. The only skill I don't have on my bar . I at least use one ilm punch in PvP or on monsters that use stoneskin sometimes, but mostly its crap too.
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  9. #29
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Character
    Knot Destroyer
    World
    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I never ever using Dissipation (except pvp) even in thordan. Like, why sacrifice auto-regen by draining mp for bigger galvanize and aetherflow (and swiftcast too)?
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  10. #30
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    UBERHAXED's Avatar
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    Character
    Seraph Khalid
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    Shukuchi easily. I actually had to look it's name up before posting because I had actually completely forgotten it. And the worst part is it seems like it could be a cool skill to use but it's just pointless.
    It's a gap closer. You use it for when you need to move (like in raids) or after a knockback (like in raids) or when you need to quickly get to a target far from you that's also moving (like in raids). It's okay to have skills that require high level play to use.
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