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Thread: WHM 4.0

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    Nico Nico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine_Ultima View Post
    ...Reraise: ogcd skill with a 3 minute CD. Last for 30 minutes unless used...
    It reminds me long time ago I suggested to add Reraise in a similar thread,
    then some great players objected to it strongly and said healers should learn not to die instead. ^^;
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    Choochoo Gonepoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    It reminds me long time ago I suggested to add Reraise in a similar thread,
    then some great players objected to it strongly and said healers should learn not to die instead. ^^;
    Ouch. Burn! I never die... but when I do... I use my Phoenix Down.

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    Zara Diaspora
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    The heals are pretty solid but I like these ideas of a full raise, or re-raise. I would love to see more party enhancements. There really isn't a lot of defensive play compared to doing as much damage as possible and side stepping. Maybe this is over powered but I wouldn't mind seeing something that procs Stoneskin 2 inside of battle, instant cast. Of course doing all this would mean we need to buff our brother and sister jobs more! And they would have to do something making magic resistance useful.
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    Victoria Silverdawn
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    I love my WHM, but i think it should have something that is more for itself... since they changed its protect and stoneskin was nerfed... it never had anything that made it special. besides is OP heals and regens
    I think what WHM would need is a full life, auto life, AOE esuna, or another MP restore. As far as DPS skills, i think a AOE earth spell like Quake would be awesome.
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I thought about it and what would make WHM a always must have in a party would be like many say an Aoe Ensuna or maybe mass res like in WoW but instead of needing to use the Lb3, use up a pretty heavy GCD.

    Arisen/Arise/Rebirth
    Something along those lines in terms of name, but the effect would be raises all fallen party members in a 30y radius around the caster, communing all current mana and 50% of their current life. 10-15 minute cooldown. Debuff on party members lasting about 10 minutes blocking another Mass res.

    Basically like Mass res from wow but for the Whm only.

    Flavour text could be like

    "Calling from the deep powers of the elements the conjurer summons the power to draw friendly life spirits back to their former states. At great cost to the Conjurer who loses some of their own life force as part of the exchange to heal others"



    Why? Well we have all been in raid where things start going wrong and you almost have it done but using a Lb3 is not quite there yet, so having this spell allows the party to quickly turn the tides of the battle and complete those raids.
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    Nanaki Naki
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    White Mage Lv 90
    At the very least if they do make another healer (which I hope is not another WHM/SCH + mechanic) I would want them to leave WHM alone. Also to at least put in minimal effort on the quest line and not something that seems to be produced on a napkin a day before expension release. Seriously, it was just horrible and it's not like there is no lore to pull from.
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victoria_Silverdawn View Post
    I love my WHM, but i think it should have something that is more for itself... since they changed its protect and stoneskin was nerfed... it never had anything that made it special. besides is OP heals and regens
    I think what WHM would need is a full life, auto life, AOE esuna, or another MP restore. As far as DPS skills, i think a AOE earth spell like Quake would be awesome.
    Flood or Quake as a spammable AoE or a proc/synergy with Holy.
    Arise and Reraise as unique skills to WHM, to make it even for the lost of Graniteskin and Proshell.
    Shell, something like a raid-wide Apocatastasis with long CD.
    Pray, MP restore CD with low % of resoration (5%, let's say), but would restore all party members MP.

    Let me dream.
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Let me dream.
    inb4 SE gives you reraise with a 10s duration for a normal raise cost
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The thing about Reraise is that it doesn't need to be its own skill. It could easily be a trait tied to Raise. When you cast Raise on a living target, it gives them the Raise buff that allows them to accept it as a raise when they die. This helps curb its use with the same high MP cost as Raise and the same obnoxious cast time.
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Sage Lv 100
    I'd actually like traits that would enhance current abilities.

    1) the return of Graniteskin (or something to help stoneskin).

    2) The return of 1.0's raise without weakness trait. Since raise no longer has a long cool down this trait could be attached to Presence of Mind. They could possibly make the trait mutually exclusive with swiftcast.

    3) A trait for stone 2 that heals the highest person on the hate list of a target for a percentage of damage done to a target with stone 2.
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