Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
I've looked at a few, I don't see anything in them that seems too special from the outside.


Also I'm not "doing" Alex and Void Ark, I did them, got bored, and now I'm done with them. I just want to move on to the next step up whatever it is. The problem being that according to people here, that step doesn't actually follow in order as you would expect, but rather has a 100 hour buffer of the easiest most boring stuff in the game before I have the gear and cross-class skills to meet the requirements.
That isn't true. If you did Void Ark and Alex NM, then you should have at least some 200 and 190 gear + esoterics to buffer. As soon as you are 190+, I'd say you're fine to step into A1S. Keep on doing Void Ark/NM/Eso purchases to gear up as you try to progress.

Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
DPS checks shouldn't exist anyway. They just measure gear with no regard for skill. I have yet to see a thing in this game where skill was a factor, that's why I'm so against this combat system. It feels like I'm playing a clicker game, just watching the numbers get bigger as nothing really changes.
Partly true, but not fully. There is a large skill gap in this game. I've personally seen people in gear 10-20 ilvls lower outDPS the higher geared person. Knowing and being able to execute your rotation, while handling mechanics, while managing cooldowns/stacks/buffs given down-times of the fight etc does take some skill.

Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
Then why does it take so long to earn (both rate and cap) in only the most boring of ways? And to compound the boredom they limit the roulette for it to only 2 choices of dungeons. This feels like the kind of thing that should be giving like 100 base with a 200 first-timer bonus, uncapped, for running ravana or bismarck EX (which REALLY should be DF)
This is limited by cap to prevent people from being in 210 gear in one week. Esoterics are given in almost all end game content, more than just DF. Void Ark, Alex NM, Alex Savage, Thordan EX, Ravana EX, Bismark EX, PvP, Expert Roulette, 60 Roulette, Leveling Roulette, Trials Roulette, PvP Roulette. Heck if you do PvP Roulette (40 Eso) + Expert Roulette (75 Eso) each day, you'll be capped on Eso in 4 days. That's like 45 minutes a day, give or take.

Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
Not purposely, that would be having the skill and refusing to use it. I just don't have it.
You are purposely refusing to get it, is all. Cross Class skills is actually a great feature of this game, because it encourages you to try out all of the jobs. I found that I liked a lot more of them than I initially gave them credit for. I hated DRG at first, but it was pretty fun after I forced myself to level it up for B4B for my BRD.


Quote Originally Posted by Callback View Post
It's not that I haven't started on it. Why does it take so long to unlock? Why are secondary classes such a grind? Obviously if I've gotten this far on my main he content my LNC is being forced to do is boring and easy as hell. He's 29/34 and it's the dullest thing to do. I've resorted to just accepting leves and letting someone else actually run them while I play Mario Maker, but those allowances run dry fairly quickly. Is there something faster?
I feel you may be leveling inefficiently. It's quite quick to level up - at the very least you can just run Leveling Roulette each day and get a level that way (it pretty much gives ~1 level per run each day sub 50). As for your comment about leves, I could see why you may find it hard to find people to play with.

Quote Originally Posted by MeiUshu View Post
BUT again that is how YOU see it. Like someone said, some of us dont mind to run into non experienced, non knowledgables, low geared /poorly geared people. Besides, YOU DONT HAVE to use DF if you dont want to, today we dont have that choice. Leave those that want to use DF to them and you keep doing waht you hve been doing DONT USE DF. How hard is that ?? seriously ?
What I don't get is the lockout clearly promotes elitism, in that only people with statics and of the upper elite are able to even enter - nevermind clear. It kind of goes opposite to the rest of the entire FFXIV mentality. Other than changing how the loot lockout works, I don't see why there would be a problem in having them in DF on release.