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  1. #971
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    And to add onto the last post, I don't think actively choosing to play your job poorly is ever excusable. Flat out refusing to do something for any reason is nonsensical if it would be to the benefit of the other players in a group for you to do so. That's being both a poor teammate and a poor player.
    Does this explain why JP players can pug A3S and NA Statics are still wiping?
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  2. #972
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    Yukiko's Avatar
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    Yukihko Kuroshima
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Does this explain why JP players can pug A3S and NA Statics are still wiping?
    You should check their reaction time when it comes to play action games!
    They train for years to achieve that level of speed...
    Look at e-sport turnaments and you see the difference, only a few NA/EU players can match their speed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

  3. #973
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Does this explain why JP players can pug A3S and NA Statics are still wiping?
    It's got more to do with the fact that NA DPS players aren't held to the same standard as JP DPS, so it's harder for healers to carry them. o3o

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  4. #974
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    Kurogaea's Avatar
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    Raifu Kurogaea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Is this still going on??? If I'm healing and there's plenty of time between heals (and i don't mean 1-5 secs) I'd switch to cleric stance and cast a stone or two with a dot. If I'm healing heavily because my fellow healer decides to go full on dps, I'm not stopping healing and wasting mp that I may need for later.

    If I'm by myself, I may just dps. Maybe. Doesn't mean I will, because I don't have to. If a dps has to ask a whm or other healer to pick up their slack then they're obviously not doing their job right and passing the blame for not being able to follow up on their role's requirements. Your dps people, do it. I'm a healer for a reason. You want a healer to dps? (passes controller) Here ya go, heal and dps while I nuke the boss with my blackmage. Be my guest. Easiest part for any boss if you ask me.

    Healers are expected to throw dots?? If you needed more dps, the dev teams would've gave us more dps slots over healers or tanks. 4 dps is enough, you don't need 4 1/2. So what I say to every dps who asks me to attack a boss during a raid fight or dungeon, " Hey, do you want to heal while I dps. Sound good to you? No? Then let me do my job, and you do yours." And no, its not the healers job to dps, its to keep the tank and dps alive. Those skills I have are for when dps can't do their work right or if the tanks fall off an arena and the boss has little hp left. Cleric stance, Stone 3 away. That is all.
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    Last edited by Kurogaea; 01-12-2016 at 03:37 PM.

  5. #975
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    bloodSp3c's Avatar
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    Renary Devarian
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    Ravana
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    White Mage Lv 100
    farkkk u guys are still going??? ya'll need to move on, seriously....


    Quote Originally Posted by RickXRolled View Post
    This is no longer about healer dps. This is now about getting to 100 pages.
    ^ i will contribute towards the 100 pages
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  6. #976
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    Cromi_Jobly's Avatar
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    Cromi Jobly
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    Diabolos
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    I'll put this here instead of the gif thread to help out page count:

    Boss fight without healer helping with DPS.

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  7. #977
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    Kurogaea's Avatar
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    Raifu Kurogaea
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromi_Jobly View Post
    I'll put this here instead of the gif thread to help out page count:

    Boss fight without healer helping with DPS.

    Actually it just seems like they're lacking a tank. :/
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  8. #978
    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    It's got more to do with the fact that NA DPS players aren't held to the same standard as JP DPS, so it's harder for healers to carry them. o3o

    Healer carry? You're hilarious.
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  9. #979
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    Healer carry? You're hilarious.
    Well, yeah, our average 400-600 DPS on single target makes up for lacking 900 as a pure DPS class. It's kinda ironic that healers can contribute with more than 1/3 of the whole damage of some DPS, while doing another job.
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  10. #980
    Player Judah_Brandt's Avatar
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    Judah Brandt
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, yeah, our average 400-600 DPS on single target makes up for lacking 900 as a pure DPS class. It's kinda ironic that healers can contribute with more than 1/3 of the whole damage of some DPS, while doing another job.
    Wait wait wait......are you saying a Healer should DPS? Guys it's over, we won!

    Kidding. If you're saying that a DPS in Raid content is doing 700ish then they need to not be in Raid content. The idea that Healer's are "carrying" those groups with their DPS is incorrect. The Healer DPS is there in order to overcome the extremely high DPS check, especially so at lower iLvls. A Healer is never carrying an Alexander Savage clear, they're helping meet the overall requirement of the content. Healer DPS at this point actually isn't even required due to the gear available, but it's always welcomed because why make things harder for everyone on purpose?
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    Last edited by Judah_Brandt; 01-12-2016 at 11:39 PM.

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