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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Does this explain why JP players can pug A3S and NA Statics are still wiping?
    It's got more to do with the fact that NA DPS players aren't held to the same standard as JP DPS, so it's harder for healers to carry them. o3o

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    Is this still going on??? If I'm healing and there's plenty of time between heals (and i don't mean 1-5 secs) I'd switch to cleric stance and cast a stone or two with a dot. If I'm healing heavily because my fellow healer decides to go full on dps, I'm not stopping healing and wasting mp that I may need for later.

    If I'm by myself, I may just dps. Maybe. Doesn't mean I will, because I don't have to. If a dps has to ask a whm or other healer to pick up their slack then they're obviously not doing their job right and passing the blame for not being able to follow up on their role's requirements. Your dps people, do it. I'm a healer for a reason. You want a healer to dps? (passes controller) Here ya go, heal and dps while I nuke the boss with my blackmage. Be my guest. Easiest part for any boss if you ask me.

    Healers are expected to throw dots?? If you needed more dps, the dev teams would've gave us more dps slots over healers or tanks. 4 dps is enough, you don't need 4 1/2. So what I say to every dps who asks me to attack a boss during a raid fight or dungeon, " Hey, do you want to heal while I dps. Sound good to you? No? Then let me do my job, and you do yours." And no, its not the healers job to dps, its to keep the tank and dps alive. Those skills I have are for when dps can't do their work right or if the tanks fall off an arena and the boss has little hp left. Cleric stance, Stone 3 away. That is all.
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    Last edited by Kurogaea; 01-12-2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    It's got more to do with the fact that NA DPS players aren't held to the same standard as JP DPS, so it's harder for healers to carry them. o3o

    Healer carry? You're hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    Healer carry? You're hilarious.
    Well, yeah, our average 400-600 DPS on single target makes up for lacking 900 as a pure DPS class. It's kinda ironic that healers can contribute with more than 1/3 of the whole damage of some DPS, while doing another job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, yeah, our average 400-600 DPS on single target makes up for lacking 900 as a pure DPS class. It's kinda ironic that healers can contribute with more than 1/3 of the whole damage of some DPS, while doing another job.
    Wait wait wait......are you saying a Healer should DPS? Guys it's over, we won!

    Kidding. If you're saying that a DPS in Raid content is doing 700ish then they need to not be in Raid content. The idea that Healer's are "carrying" those groups with their DPS is incorrect. The Healer DPS is there in order to overcome the extremely high DPS check, especially so at lower iLvls. A Healer is never carrying an Alexander Savage clear, they're helping meet the overall requirement of the content. Healer DPS at this point actually isn't even required due to the gear available, but it's always welcomed because why make things harder for everyone on purpose?
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    Last edited by Judah_Brandt; 01-12-2016 at 11:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    Wait wait wait......are you saying a Healer should DPS? Guys it's over, we won!
    No, I'm saying the only reason we unfortunately need to DPS in some cases, is because of lacking DPS players. Expecting a healer to put up damage to cover your low numbers is more lazy than a healer that does not DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    No, I'm saying the only reason we unfortunately need to DPS in some cases, is because of lacking DPS players. Expecting a healer to put up damage to cover your low numbers is more lazy than a healer that does not DPS.
    D......did you not even read the rest of my post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt View Post
    D......did you not even read the rest of my post?
    I read the rest and you made it sound like healers are trolls for not dpsing during high end raids. Not our fault you don't meet requirements, place the blame where it belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    Well, yeah, our average 400-600 DPS on single target makes up for lacking 900 as a pure DPS class. It's kinda ironic that healers can contribute with more than 1/3 of the whole damage of some DPS, while doing another job.
    TBH I fail to see the irony since healers have the tools to do so. I feel the word you were looking for is "AMAZING"
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 01-13-2016 at 12:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    TBH I fail to see the irony since healers have the tools to do so. I feel the word you were looking for is "AMAZING"
    Agreed! That's how I feel as a MT Warrior also xD

    Gratz! This Thread hit 100!
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