message from a player to part of the community about jobs

[Pence]

Your options are limited here, Sensei. You can continue calling people bullies and disregarding the advice you've been given or you can go and at least give it a shot and try to make the suggested improvements. You're making yourself look worse every time you post. It was funny at first but now it's full of cringe.

[SenseiSoriel]

Because they do way less damage. You know, the thing you are there to do.

I view black mages as polyvalent toolboxes that can pull a sleep spell on one annoying enemy at the right time, save the team at another with a well placed spell and actually staying where it is needed most. What I don't view the blackmage as: huge aggro grabbers that just spam fire as if that was the only thing they knew to do. Yes, I have a rotation, yes, it is effective, no, I don't run on empty mana, and no, I don't listen to ingame bullies as well as IRL ones. Now back to the real subject, the problem in the community.

[RiceisNice]

I'm going to make another post here: Why the hell are you targeting my way of getting the job done when the subject is about those overblown heads that cause players to quit because they are pushing their weight around! There's no right way nor any wrong way to play any jobs!

So it's not wrong if the tanks aren't picking up adds or keeping aggro? That healers don't have to keep you up and focus on dpsing?

I view black mages as polyvalent toolboxes that can pull a sleep spell on one annoying enemy at the right time, .

Most enemies in dungeons past level 50 are immune to sleep. At that point your best asset is the amount of damage you can deal, and is still your best asset before hand. There's often times that sleep isn;'t needed if things die fast enough.

Ya know what? Wouldn't have happened if so many persons came in here just to attack the playstyle of one player in the multitude. We could have had a great debate and found solutions to this growing problem of overblown egoes and players that just want to quit because of the harassment they recieve in game

And don't you believe that something is wrong on your end if almost everyone is against you? Most of us, me included, have tried our best to be reasonable with our approaches and you still go on about the "overblown ego"s over and over, at this point you are the one that doesn't want to move on with the thread after everyone else has tried to progress and contribute to it.

[SenseiSoriel]

Your options are limited here, Sensei. You can continue calling people bullies and disregarding the advice you've been given or you can go at least give it a shot and try to make the suggested improvements. You're making yourself look worse every time you post. It was funny at first but not it's full of cringe.

Ya know what? Wouldn't have happened if so many persons came in here just to attack the playstyle of one player in the multitude. We could have had a great debate and found solutions to this growing problem of overblown egoes and players that just want to quit because of the harassment they recieve in game. Guess that's why some persons hate FF14 so much now, specially the forums. There's complete hate threads on other forums just about FF14. This thread has officially derailed and as it's creator, I plan on rerailing it. If you have any problem with that, just don't post here anymore.

[Whiteroom]

I view black mages as polyvalent toolboxes that can pull a sleep spell on one annoying enemy at the right time, save the team at another with a well placed spell and actually staying where it is needed most. What I don't view the blackmage as: huge aggro grabbers that just spam fire as if that was the only thing they knew to do. Yes, I have a rotation, yes, it is effective, no, I don't run on empty mana, and no, I do n't listen to ingame bullies as well as IRL ones. Now back to the real subject, the problem in the community.

Which is funny, because a huge, huge problem with the community is dpa not being able to meet even mediocre dps checks, causing countless wipes in content, yet here you are, defending doing your job terribly... Also, it doesn't matter how you view the job, as has been stated many times to you. The BLM is a damage turret, the game design doesn't allow for the kind of play you want. Believe me, I really do wish that it did, it would be a lot more fun that way. But you are playing your way, at the expense of the team, you are a hinderance to your team, not a help. And the more you write the more I have to assume you are trolling, that is how inncorrect the things you are saying are.

Also, there is no debate about in game bullies when you are the one promoting terrible playstyle that is a detriment to your team. If anything you are the bully for forcing such an absolutely bad teamate on them. Your style of play is better reserved for preformed rp parties where everyone knows they are playing poorly, but prefer the rp element over the play element.

Also in regards to your view that everyone is attacking you, I read a saying recently, and this is not an attack, just something to consider:

If you wake up in the morning and the first person you run into is an a-hole, they are the a-hole. If everyone you run into all day is an a-hole, you are the a-hole.

[SenseiSoriel]

So it's not wrong if the tanks aren't picking up adds or keeping aggro? That healers don't have to keep you up and focus on dpsing?

Never said it was wrong, just said that there were players who were just bad. A few pointers can help them, but ordering them to do it a specific way cause you believe you are the best is just another description of a bully. I saw good playstyles that varies with each person's personal touch. I also saw bad playstyles that actually worked. Were they the best or the worsts, doubt it, but they sure did the job. What I don't want to take in this game are those bullies who write a huge wall of text in chat ordering you how to play their way as if they were the absolute best. That's also what I want to destroy the most since it kills the player base and removes the imagination from the players. If you start believing this game is a RPG based on DDR, then it's not an RPG anymore, it's DDR (reference to one previous answer).

[SenseiSoriel]

*snip, not usefull to repeat what this persons type anymore*

Let's just ignore him for now since he wants to keep the subject derailed and keep attacking me and my mini-gun playstyle.

[Pence]

This ego issue you are experiencing is due to your inability to correctly play your job. You're not being removed because people have a huge ego, or believe they are 'above' you. You're being removed because you're simple not producing desirable or sufficient results, at which point you become detrimental to the teams goals. If you was playing it how it was designed than you more than likely wouldn't be having this issue. It has already been pointed out that the job/game is very on the rails, especially at lower levels. Flexibility in how your play your job is not something XIV provides.

Perhaps you'd enjoy playing GW2 more, or a game with specs/customization options?

[Inferiae]

Never said it was wrong, just said that there were players who were just bad. A few pointers can help them, but ordering them to do it a specific way cause you believe you are the best is just another description of a bully. I saw good playstyles that varies with each person's personal touch. I also saw bad playstyles that actually worked. Were they the best or the worsts, doubt it, but they sure did the job. What I don't want to take in this game are those bullies who write a huge wall of text in chat ordering you how to play their way as if they were the absolute best. That's also what I want to destroy the most since it kills the player base and removes the imagination from the players. If you start believing this game is a RPG based on DDR, then it's not an RPG anymore, it's DDR (reference to one previous answer).

I'm usually not rude, but willful ignorance is the thing that pisses me off the most. If you don't wanna be told how to do your job, then do it properly. Period. It's not a single player game, people are counting on you, you have expectations to meet and they have every right to not be satisfied with your performance. The fact that they even try to help you and you just reject it is ridiculous.
Don't wanna be judged on your performance, then go play exclusively with friends or switch to a single player. If you want everyone to do their job, make sure you do yours.

And regarding your statement about BLM: No, your play style is wrong, you're not meeting standards you should be meeting and it is a problem for everyone else in your party.

[Kabooa]

Hi, Black Mage Main chiming in.

You're doing it wrong.

Basically, until you get your 'III" spells, you:

Fire 1 until empty, transpose, thunder, fill with Blizz 1, transpose to fire, repeat.

When you get your III spells, transpose is an emergency "Damn I don't have enough to Blizz 3."

Fire 1 to near empty. Blizz 3. Thunder. Fire 3 at full, Fire 1 to near empty. Repeat.

Sorry, there is no other 'good' way of playing Black mage, because the way I listed is still horribly sub-optimal, and that's 85% of playing pre-60 Black Mage.