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  1. #1
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    And that's where you fail as human. You standardize and put everything in the same exact mold when everyone is different and plays differently. I'm playing games since over 20 years ago. I'm used to never being mana empty. I find using fire repeatedly burn the bar too much, but I do have my small rotation that uses transpose. Never went bellow half the mp bar for no reason, best reasons being in boss fights. Guess you were a great bully in school.
    If you're doing crap damage because of your "Playstyle" you're dragging people down, being inconsiderate and simply aren't playing well. It's one thing if you're learning and receptive to advise, but to close yourself off and take on such a juvenile "I pay my sub I'll play how I like" attitude means you deserve to be kicked.
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    Natt Windchaser
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamillion View Post
    If you're doing crap damage because of your "Playstyle" you're dragging people down, being inconsiderate and simply aren't playing well. It's one thing if you're learning and receptive to advise, but to close yourself off and take on such a juvenile "I pay my sub I'll play how I like" attitude means you deserve to be kicked.
    Giving advice and ordering the person to do something is totally different. Just to resume my playstyle for thaum: not burning my mana on small fries in dungeon (pointless to just fire repeatedly anyway), spending more on bosses and sub-bosses (2-3 fires followed by 2-3 blizzards without burning trought my mana to be the most helpfull at the right time).
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    Giving advice and ordering the person to do something is totally different. Just to resume my playstyle for thaum: not burning my mana on small fries in dungeon (pointless to just fire repeatedly anyway), spending more on bosses and sub-bosses (2-3 fires followed by 2-3 blizzards without burning trought my mana to be the most helpfull at the right time).
    You don't need to save your mana as a THM/BLM as everyone has been telling you. You can easily just empty out your mana with fire spells, tranpose to go into umbral, use blizzard, then start using fire when you regenerate to full. Your problem is that you're totally unaccepting and being unreceptive of advice to better your role, regardless of how it's given. People are goign to get justifably upset if you're not performing as a DPS by dpsing effectively because you're ignoring the core concept of your class.

    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    Funny thing you mention 6 seconds, that can be the exact time where everyone but the black mage is still alive. And must I say that I checked the aggro I amass and get second in a party fast. Pretty sure using the ''official'' one grabs all the aggro from the tank. Often saw black mages fall too because of that.
    Then you're either going guns ablazing before the tank even gets the first hit, you're overgearing, or the tank isn't a good. And honestly at early levels, THM is very prone to pulling aggro because of how high their damage is... which means you're doing your job and the tank isn't considering normal circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    You don't need to save your mana as a THM/BLM as everyone has been telling you. You can easily just empty out your mana with fire spells, tranpose to go into umbral, use blizzard, then start using fire when you regenerate to full. Your problem is that you're totally unaccepting and being unreceptive of advice to better your role, regardless of how it's given. People are goign to get justifably upset if you're not performing as a DPS by dpsing effectively because you're ignoring the core concept of your class.
    I'm receptive to the advice given, but when the person just spam ''do as I say cause I'm da best'', I consider that an order and I don't really like getting orders from those that believe they are the best. Must have something to do with the agressive feeling of harassment they tend to exude...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    I'm receptive to the advice given, but when the person just spam ''do as I say cause I'm da best'', I consider that an order and I don't really like getting orders from those that believe they are the best. Must have something to do with the agressive feeling of harassment they tend to exude...
    I literally do not believe that this is the case as opposed to your perspective of it, going by this quote

    Quote Originally Posted by SenseiSoriel View Post
    I'm making this message because I ended again with some overblown heads.... never being manaempty (rotating bliz and fire).
    And here comes the overblown ego heads..

    It sounds more like you being overly offensive when told that your way of playing THM is wrong (which it is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    I literally do not believe that this is the case as opposed to your perspective of it, going by this quote
    It sounds more like you being overly offensive when told that your way of playing THM is wrong (which it is).
    You never had to deal with bullies, right? And as I said, there is no wrong way to play. If the game became real life, then now it would matter the most to play it at it's apex of power, but then again, we ain't in Log Horizon universe here. And yes, I get offensive when I see someone push his weight around as if he's the king of the world, the cream of the cream, the best in everything. That's what causes so much crap to hit the fans and makes the world turn square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    Then you're either going guns ablazing before the tank even gets the first hit, you're overgearing, or the tank isn't a good. And honestly at early levels, THM is very prone to pulling aggro because of how high their damage is... which means you're doing your job and the tank isn't considering normal circumstances.
    Never went before the tank could deal damage, I'm just monitoring the whole field to the best of my abilities, often checking my MP, my HP, the HP of others, the minimap, the adds that spawn, what enemy I can put to sleep (it's usefull) and wich has to be killed in priority and so on. I'm gessing I see Blackmage as a fine pinpoint tool that hurts where and when it's needed.
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