message from a player to part of the community about jobs

[Ashbury]

Last night we had a thaumaturge on our Void Ark run. When questioned about the lack of soul stone, she said she was 'already set on (her) way.' We helpfully set her on the way of a hopefully acceptable group by kicking her after the first boss.

[FunkyBunch]

Last night we had a thaumaturge on our Void Ark run. When questioned about the lack of soul stone, she said she was 'already set on (her) way.' We helpfully set her on the way of a hopefully acceptable group by kicking her after the first boss.

I had an ARC same thing. Because he wanted more cross class ability choice =/
After he failed at doing DPS, he agreed to get his Specialty.

[ChameleonMS]

OP, I think I was around level 28 or so before I understood what Transpose did and thus how to THM/BLM effectively. Before that, I was an Ice Mage because I could always cast Ice. Whenever I used fire, ran out of MP and had to wait for it to regenerate, at which point Astral Fire would wear off and I would have start all over again. Why??? because I did not understand what Umbral Ice did and thus, why Transpose was an essential ability.

For the members here which say read the desriptions: Um....

Blizzard:
Deals Ice damage with a potency of 180.
Additional Effect: Heavy +40%
Additional Effect: Grants Umbral Ice or remove Astral Fire duration 10s

Fire:
Deals Fire damage with a potency of 180.
Additional Effect: Grants Astral Fire or removes Umbral Ice duration 10s

Transpose:
Swaps Astral Fire with a Single Umbral Ice, or Umbral Ice with a single Astral Fire.

No where that I ever remember does the game tell you, Umbral Ice recharges your MP really fast.
Just by reading the descriptions and early game play (single player 99% of the time), it very easy to not Transpose effectively.


As for the kicking, if the other players provided in a reasonable / polite tone instruction on how to use Transpose correctly and you ignored them. I can understand why they kicked you.
I would have just judged how the dungeon progress was going and your responses to the advice.
1. stuff dying at a decent speed? Answer Yes.
2. Your response were also polite (regardless of answers)? Ok, just finish the duty.

[FunkyBunch]

I think there's an Active Help entry on Astral Fire and Umbral Ice. But if you turned them off like I do, you have to go back and read them ><

[RiceisNice]

I think there's an Active Help entry on Astral Fire and Umbral Ice. But if you turned them off like I do, you have to go back and read them ><

There is, and it literally throws them at you when you get the respective abilties, and explicitly details what they do, and what the stacks themselves do. You'd have to...well...not read, to not know what astral/umbral does.

[ChameleonMS]

There is, and it literally throws them at you when you get the respective abilties, and explicitly details what they do, and what the stacks themselves do. You'd have to...well...not read, to not know what astral/umbral does.

In my specific case, it was because I raised my THM to like 12, then did not return to the class again until something like 6 months later. Having completely forgotten anything previously read or how to play it.

[Almalexia]

Fine, I can understand that some players love to play it like that, but get it in your skull that there's more than one playstyle!

You have the wrong idea about FFXIV.

Jobs to not have "builds" or "specs" or "styles." They each have a single, stringent and optimal rotation - an ideal. Every buff and ability fits into a rhythm, which produces The Best Outcome when executed in time. Any deviation from this rhythm is necessarily Not-The-Best Outcome.

Think of it like DDR. There's only one way to do the dance right and your score falls on a continuum between perfect and not playing at all. Now imagine playing DDR and a bunch of people are throwing silverware at you, or using a rope to tie you to other people playing DDR--that's your FFXIV raid experience.

The sooner you accept there's one way to do it, the sooner you can start mastering it.

[F_Maximillian]

If you mouse over the actual astral fire/umbral ice buffs you can see what they say.

[Atoli]

As someone who has mained BLM for the longest time, reading this thread HURTS me ;_;
I'll assume the OP is a troll just to protect what little sanity is left inside my torn apart soul.

Sure, there are several "right" ways to play THM/BLM, but there are only several because each is level-specific since you are lacking the skills to make an even more efficient rotation work yet.
That's the problem with FFXIV, there are so many people who think they know better when they know literally nothing so they continue being horrible at their class and then make up the worst excuses why it's okay to keep being bad at it.

[Jamillion]

I'm pretty sure bots are more efficient than fire 1 -> blizzard 1 -> fire 1 ad nauseam