Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
My argument was written in a really informal way. But I think it's obvious how I intended it. By someone not caring, I meant other players in that party. I don't think someone can be called bad for not trying when they don't need to try, no one cares that they're not trying, and they can do better in the scenarios where they do try.


As for your 2nd point, it's a false dichotomy because someone not being the best player doesn't automatically make them a bad player. Yes, I do think that healers that heal and dps the hardest content in the game are better than healers that don't do these things. However, that doesn't mean the healers that don't dps are below average, since average, by definition is based on what most other people are doing.

Now if healers feel that the average player IS healing and dpsing most content, then they should ask themselves why they aren't willing to play even at that level. If you won't come up to even an average level of play, then yes, you are bad, no way around that. But if most healers are just healing, don't let the haters hate, just know that there is a higher level of play that you're not part of.
For your first part, that is directly what I was talking about. If you are in a party of 4, and one person complains that the healer is not DPSing then that meets that requirement.

For your dichotomy point, I can see where you are coming from - but we really have no evidence to support what the 'average' is. I consider not playing well to be playing bad. I consider DPSing as a healer to be playing well (or at least trying to), and thus if you aren't you are playing poorly. However, I can agree that we can say instead of bad/poor - the word is average. However, it's very unfortunate if that is the case. I see it like a math problem, say we are presented with the following question 20x20 = ? I'd say people who can't do this are bad at math, but let's say the average person can't do it. Is it the case that if they cannot do that question that they are not bad? I used a simple math question, because DPSing in a dungeon is simple. We could obviously make the question more difficult and say what is 543823 x 42342, and I imagine most people cannot do this - and I'd accept the premise that these people are average. So, I guess it all comes down to perspective. Do you view DPSing in a dungeon as a difficult task like my 2nd math problem, or one like the first?

Last part reiterates, we don't know what the average is :\ From personal experience, the average definitely DPSes.