The arrogance of some people

[Whiteroom]

I know that parser had healing per minute, but no one ever goes off that stat do they? Saying well the healer was really good they maintained a good healing per minute, nope instead its dps dps dps dps....im a healer by main role, its optional for me to dps not mandatory...same as its optional for Drg/Monks to off tank if needed.

Healing is a thankless job, most of the community blame you for everything.

So you think a high HPS is a good thing?

I get lots of comms and thanks for healing. If you are not, maybe you are healing in a way that most people don't appreciate.

[Bixillarla]

Please do and post it here.

Maybe make two! Other pure healing and other heals/dps. See how much fun/faster it is for healer.

It may be slightly faster but definately not fun, at least for me.

[RickXRolled]

Let's look at this from a logical perspective.

If you and one other person apply for a job at the same time, whomever is hiring will check what you are capable off before making a decision. If you can only meet the bare minimum requirement to perform the job and the other person can not only perform the job, but also do many other tasks and do them more efficiently. Who do you think will be deemed superior and hired?

Df works a bit differently seeing as you cannot choose who the healer is(unless premade or you yourself are a healer). So instead of hiring a better one, you have to make due with the one you've been given. Doesn't mean you wouldn't have preferred a better healer that makes the most out of their kit.

Now this thread has mainly been about healers, but I judge other dps players and tanks the same I would judge a healer. Most people I know judge bad play in general, it's just healers sitting around doing nothing is more obvious. Hence why I promote public parsers.

TLDR;
All players should aim to perform to the best of their abillity and be held accountable.

[Lament]

I know that parser had healing per minute, but no one ever goes off that stat do they? Saying well the healer was really good they maintained a good healing per minute, nope instead its dps dps dps dps....im a healer by main role, its optional for me to dps not mandatory...same as its optional for Drg/Monks to off tank if needed.

Healing is a thankless job, most of the community blame you for everything.

The most praise I've received and the vast majority of the comms on my main (which is not my forum character) happened when I was the healer.

Every other job in this game has been more thankless than healing in my experience. DPS is particularly thankless, especially outside of a raid setting.

[ScarletDawn]

So you think a high HPS is a good thing?

Would you prefer i let the tank drop to 40% hp before healing? Spamming Cure 1 is more MP efficient then using larger heals, not only that the free cure proc is pretty handy. So you can get a high healing rate for very little mana use, the issue comes down to cleric stance cd, which is 5 seconds, in a large mob group 5 secs is enough time to kill a tank.

[RiceisNice]

Would you prefer i let the tank drop to 40% hp before healing? Spamming Cure 1 is more MP efficient then using larger heals, not only that the free cure proc is pretty handy. So you can get a high healing rate for very little mana use, the issue comes down to cleric stance cd, which is 5 seconds, in a large mob group 5 secs is enough time to kill a tank.

The tank is doing something wrong if he dies in five seconds, let alone in a second if they're down to 40%

[RickXRolled]

Would you prefer i let the tank drop to 40% hp before healing? Spamming Cure 1 is more MP efficient then using larger heals, not only that the free cure proc is pretty handy. So you can get a high healing rate for very little mana use, the issue comes down to cleric stance cd, which is 5 seconds, in a large mob group 5 secs is enough time to kill a tank.

I feel like I should record a mass pull in expert as healer and show how to keep the tank alive and still dps. Maybe then people will start seeing how to efficiently heal AND dps.

[Blood-Aki]

The tank is doing something wrong if he dies in five seconds, let alone in a second if they're down to 40%

This happens very often if the tank is undergeared for the instance, Furthermore if they are trying to pull more mobs then they can handle. Giving you no room to do anything else but spam constant heals.

I feel like I should record a mass pull in expert as healer and show how to keep the tank alive and still dps. Maybe then people will start seeing how to efficiently heal AND dps.

Good luck doing that with an i160-170 tank, that pulls 10 mobs at a time.

[ScarletDawn]

I feel like I should record a mass pull in expert as healer and show how to keep the tank alive and still dps. Maybe then people will start seeing how to efficiently heal AND dps.

Show us all hows its done then, cause clearly we are all scrubs and must learn from a Pro.

[Lament]

Would you prefer i let the tank drop to 40% hp before healing? Spamming Cure 1 is more MP efficient then using larger heals, not only that the free cure proc is pretty handy. So you can get a high healing rate for very little mana use, the issue comes down to cleric stance cd, which is 5 seconds, in a large mob group 5 secs is enough time to kill a tank.

Actually, yes. You should, optimally, work with the tank's entire HP pool. You only need to use Cure when your HoTs aren't enough. Regen is more mana efficient. In most situations it's perfectly fine to let the tank drop to 40% before healing, toss a couple of heals until they're topped, Cleric Stance and go back to DPS.

Even in huge pulls, as WHM, you can Stoneskin the tank and start the pull with Regen(+Asylum)+Cleric Stance+Swiftcast+Holy(+Assize+Presence of Mind)+Aero3, you've just stunned every mob in the pack for 3 seconds plus delivered massive burst AoE damage and probably got the tank back up to nearly full from any damage sustained before you got there. Holy is your strongest mitigation tool in a pack of mobs. You can then cast it two more times for a total of 6 seconds of the tank not taking -any- damage. That covers your 5 seconds of recast on cleric stance, and only then do you usually need to switch to dedicated healing. Shroud of Saints will take care of MP management and aggro management in one go.

This happens very often if the tank is undergeared for the instance, Furthermore if they are trying to pull more mobs then they can handle. Giving you no room to do anything else but spam constant heals.

Good luck doing that with an i160-170 tank, that pulls 10 mobs at a time.

No one should be holding you accountable for bad tanking. If you don't have a window to DPS, you don't have a window to DPS, end of story.