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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I'll stop my distaste of the cash shop as soon as there are on game means to attain everything available barring physical items and additional services.

    No player friendly reason to not have all these items exist as gold saucer rewards.
    Except having more and more things building up the Gold Saucer shopping list. Just as I was about to get the turtle they added dances and hairs. Still no turtle. Seriously, if every forum suggestion about adding items to Gold Saucer came true I'd never be able to grind enough MGP to catch up.

    I would rather they designed new things for the game and filled the cash shop with old cosmetic items which have already appeared in game at some point. Missed Starlight 2015? Wee buy them in the Mog Station in 2017 (at which point Starlight has new stuff) and make sure not to miss any other events.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.
    I see, my bad. A choice between the two would be fine imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Except having more and more things building up the Gold Saucer shopping list.
    To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.

    Personally, if given the choice between cash shop and gold saucer, chances are I'll take the cash shop every time. I dislike the saucer, the flair of it and most of the minigames don't catch my interest either. I'm willing to pay just for the ability to spend less time in that bunny infested hellhole. But I see no issues in making it an option for people who want to get the stuff ingame, rather than pay in addition to monthly fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    To be fair, he probably meant it as an option.

    To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

    I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.

    *edit*

    But yes as a compromise as long as there is a viable ingame alternative feel free to nickle and dime people all you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

    I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.
    No thank you, I have enough to grind for already don't need more to add to the list. I much prefer being able to purchase it and have it right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    To be honest if I had a choice I'd abolish the cash shop alltogether and make all it's content available within game through a variety of content. The stuff from the cash shop could be used to add longevity to content and help players set long term goals to achieve.

    I personally find it counterproductive to sell vanity when you could use it to bolster subscriber longevity giving more time before people get burnt out grinding the same few peices of content because it's the only thing to provides a long term goal or tangible rewards.
    While I certainly can't disagree with your idea since it promotes free stuff, it wouldn't add much longevity. Look at the tank mounts. Tanks will accumulate 200 full party raids just by playing their role at/past 50 with minimal effort. Stuff like Fenrir is just an annoying time sink that provides no actual challenge beyond your resolve to log in every day for mini-cacpot or do an ungodly amount of Triple Triad. Hell, even pony farming isn't really challenging. People go in at lvl60 and laugh at the Primals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Seriously, if every forum suggestion about adding items to Gold Saucer came true I'd never be able to grind enough MGP to catch up.
    So you could also just pick the ones you want?

    That's like me saying that if all the forum suggestions were put into the cash shop I wouldn't be able to obtain all the content for a reasonable real life cost.

    My suggestion at least is putting the content into the game, not keeping it out.
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    Valentine's Day is getting closer. I would greatly appreciate being able to look my best during the celebration. Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    So you could also just pick the ones you want?

    That's like me saying that if all the forum suggestions were put into the cash shop I wouldn't be able to obtain all the content for a reasonable real life cost.

    My suggestion at least is putting the content into the game, not keeping it out.
    Why would I prefer having to pick between items to getting all of them? Sorry but that's not a very good argument to make me change my stance. Also cosmetic items are not content. They're items. That's like saying every piece of Diadem gear is content. Holy moly are we drowning in content in that case... Gold Saucer rewards also wouldn't get me to do any more existing content seeing as I'm already busy in-game doing existing content including GS stuff. So yeah I'd prefer a method that isn't a massive time sink and further gate me from the cool mounts I still don't have. In case my point still evades you, I never said it shouldn't be obtainable in-game. Just not with GS as the only option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Just not with GS as the only option.
    Neither do I the game should reward players with this kind of stuff for playing 5he game. Between pvp diadem raids crafting gathering commendations...

    There are tons of ways to get the content into the game without charging us. Leave it on there for cash too if you must give people something to empty 5heir wallets on I guess.

    But I will disagree with you that glamor isn't content. It's content as much as ThorDan is.
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