Samurai and Ala Migho

[Velox]

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Actually, other than the egi thing, they said no to special stats from the get-go due to the balancing nightmare. Add-ons are still inbound. Odin is an open-world primal and you see how much a shit-show that is. Open-world fights are overrated, as they will ALWAYS turn into zerg-fests (part of the reason I prefer instances in MMO to curb people's stupidity).

Also if I remember correctly, Yoshida said there would be only 1 job per expansion from this point forward. The reason why the last 3 were messes was because the team didn't have enough manpower to balance 3 entire new jobs and fine tune them before launch. He said they would limit it to 1 job and that way it won't get released as an unholy mess.

[Doki]

If they only release a single new job though, that will completely bork duty finder queuing...oh wait, everyone will just fate spam anyhow.

[Tilgung]

I don't think anything they say has any merit. After the whole..SMN will get more pets and then didn't, the whole FC alliance thing, add ons, interesting stats on gear back, open world primals, there is just too much they say and don't put in so I read nothing anymore what they have to say about this game and do not believe any of it until I see it.

None of those, except for the pets, were actually promised. The reason for not adding more pets was a good one, and they offered a great alternative solution.

[kiraan]

Also if I remember correctly, Yoshida said there would be only 1 job per expansion from this point forward. The reason why the last 3 were messes was because the team didn't have enough manpower to balance 3 entire new jobs and fine tune them before launch. He said they would limit it to 1 job and that way it won't get released as an unholy mess.

I don't recall him mentioning they would limit to 1 job only. What he said was they won't release 3 at once. Meaning 2 is still possible.

[Zohar_Lahar]

I think he said it before that samurai "should" be a DPS and I hope that's the way he's going to make it.

I can't see Samurai as tank now that we have Dark Knight.

[Ametrine]

The issue with 3 jobs in Heavensward is rooted back that 4 were in development. Ninja came out in 2.4, and the stress of finishing and balancing Ninja on top of the load of 3 other jobs was too much.

Yoshida hinted the Moonfire Faire had a hint towards the amount of new jobs at the anniversary stream. He's also stated he wants Samurai, but held back on slapping it in HW since we had just gotten a Japanese inspired job with Ninja.

As for Ala Mhigo being the next city, it certainly seems that their liberation is our next goal. Whether or not Ala Mhigo is the new city-state, or the new Mor Dhona/Idyllshire town is what I'm wondering.

[Clover_Blake]

Um, sorry if this has been said before, but wouldn't samurai perhaps be more suitable for a Doma expansion?

[Kazrah]

I don't recall him mentioning they would limit to 1 job only. What he said was they won't release 3 at once. Meaning 2 is still possible.

There was the whole thing about how it takes a year to make a job and that with Heavensward, they had to do triple the work in that time. They said that between that WHILE making Rogue/Ninja, they said all of that was something they never wanted to do again.

Given that they've had more than that much time to come up with new job details (one year for 3.x v. almost two for 4.x) and that they likely have some sort of template for job design by now (at least tanks and healers) that it seems HIGHLY unlikely that we'll just get two jobs unless they put far too many resources into something else.

[Jandor]

I expect 3 jobs to be honest. 1 tank, 1 melee DPS, 1 healer, that would give us 4 tanks, 4 melees, 4 ranged and 4 heals. We all know how the FFXIV dev team likes balance in all things.

It also allows for nice even splits like.
2 MT
2 OT
2 DPS melee DPS
2 support melee DPS
2 DPS ranged DPS
2 support ranged DPS
2 Main healers
2 Off healers
And further splits like.
1 high skill tank
2 average skill tanks
1 easy mode tank
and so on.

[Shurrikhan]

I just have to ask... how is Samurai a fitting a choice for Ala Mhigo?

Granted, we didn't especially have much of a lore excuse for adding in a massive wave of Au'ra either (save for one character meant, iirc, to be among the relatively few surviving members of her race), but at least the jobs fit Ishgard well enough.
I'm not saying they were inherently based in Ishgard, only that the concerns of their own politics or philosophies (AST and DRK respectively) meshed well enough with what concepts Ishgard put out. Would the same be true of SAM? What connection do you see?

E.g. is it Doman influence carrying over from the last addition?
Or are we really imagining Old English Hyurs donning lamellar (or dressed down in just cloth, if you prefer) and whipping out katanas?...

I expect 3 jobs to be honest. 1 tank, 1 melee DPS, 1 healer, that would give us 4 tanks, 4 melees, 4 ranged and 4 heals. We all know how the FFXIV dev team likes balance in all things.

It also allows for nice even splits like...
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If that's the impetus for adding the jobs, then I think we can be pretty sure we'll be seeing the exact same "<class> reskin" comments from before (e.g. Dark Rampart, Wanderless Barrel, WHM Sect). If they're intending each to add only to a very particular rank and file, they're scarcely adding options at all. Generally they add little more than choice of aesthetic.