Samurai and Ala Migho

[DemandAPanda]

Honestly, I think we might get 2 DPS as that is where we have gaps in our gear distribution. Every main stat modifier has 3 Jobs associated with it, with the exception of STR and INT which has 2 each. (PIE doesn't count) In the boring logical world I see Samurai being a STR based DPS which wears the same armor as DRG. And the RDM or DNC class being an INT based DPS class that wears Caster armor.

This is however a farcry from where I want to see the classes...

Samurai - Melee DPS that focuses on slow Heavy Hit combos (one cut one kill mentality) make them the BLM/MCH of melee DPS.

RDM or DNC (personally I'd like to see Dancer with whips)- Hybrid Class that can dance between a Healer and a Tank. It would pay homage to the elements of both classes that everyone really fell in love with, which was their sorta Omni tool utility. Something that I think would be lost if you just slap the DPS tag on them and call it a day.

[Katana190]

And dancer, a tank. Yes, a tank. It is really hard to come up with new and interesting ways to tank to make it different from the previous ones. What to do with enemy damage. Well how about a tank that dodges damage? You draw attention with your dance and spin and jump away from incoming blows.

I don't want to get into the whole SAM Tank vs DPS debate. Already done it too much in the past. Just stating my opinion and a SAM Tank could perfectly fit the whole theme of an evasion Tank. RDM could easily fit the Sword DPS everyone wants and DNC could easily fit the role of the DoW Healer everyone wants. Damn everyone is happy, except their not. No one will be happy with the decision SE makes, some will be disappointed some will love it. We'll just have to see in a few months for the announcements that are to come.

Even with all that said, it's also unlikely we will even start in Ala Mhigo at the beginning of 4.0 and will more likely be fighting our way to reclaiming it during the 4.0 story which means any new jobs wouldn't be tied to the city state anyways. As such there's plenty of room to write in a displaced Samurai trainer from Doma who teaches our adventurers his ways to fight back against the same empire that took his home. While their home is gone, the assistance in helping another group of people who suffered under the same enemy is a noble one and a likely story thread.

This would make a lot of sense tbh. I also believe if people are so tied to jobs needing to be tied to their city state, Samurai's could be a Gyr Abania elite soldier, a bit like how PLD like you mentioned is basically an elite Ul'dah guard. (?) Although no one has agreed with me on that point D: Because NIN and SAM need to be tied together I guess.

[Balipu]

This would make a lot of sense tbh. I also believe if people are so tied to jobs needing to be tied to their city state, Samurai's could be a Gyr Abania elite soldier, a bit like how PLD like you mentioned is basically an elite Ul'dah guard. (?) Although no one has agreed with me on that point D: Because NIN and SAM need to be tied together I guess.

Well the only Samurai in game are the ones in the Heavensturn event. They are from the far east. According to Yoshie-P, Othard is the far east on Hydaelin. So yeah Samurai are definitely from Othard.

[Frederick22]

Well the only Samurai in game are the ones in the Heavensturn event. They are from the far east. According to Yoshie-P, Othard is the far east on Hydaelin. So yeah Samurai are definitely from Othard.

Stop thinking on Othard. We are not going to go to that place is a very long time, if thats what happens.
You would prefere to wait until we go to that place to taht Samurai is unlocked? I'm sorry to tell you that the mayority if not almost everything is going to be on dissagreement with you.

Both arguments of Katana and Shippuu have sence and are very solid.
Could very well be a Otharian/Doman trainer who end up on Gyr Arbaria, Mor dhona, etc and wants to teach the samurai skills. If ends to be on one of the new areas of the exansion, could be anything. Most likely perhaps beacuse he wants to help the resistance and doesnt want to see the ala mhigans suffer the same consecuences Doma did? Who knows...

[Balipu]

Stop thinking on Othard. We are not going to go to that place is a very long time, if thats what happens.
You would prefere to wait until we go to that place to taht Samurai is unlocked? I'm sorry to tell you that the mayority if not almost everything is going to be on dissagreement with you.

Both arguments of Katana and Shippuu have sence and are very solid.
Could very well be a Otharian/Doman trainer who end up on Gyr Arbaria, Mor dhona, etc and wants to teach the samurai skills. If ends to be on one of the new areas of the exansion, could be anything. Most likely perhaps beacuse he wants to help the resistance and doesnt want to see the ala mhigans suffer the same consecuences Doma did? Who knows...

While I do want to go to Othard, this particular argument was against the Samurai being a Gyr Abanian elite soldier. And THAT does not make sense. Because of facts.

Yes, I would prefer to wait till we go there, because I want to go there eventually, and I want at least one job that is tied to the place. I don't believe that is too much to ask. Of course if someone can come up with a new job that really fits Othard, I'm all for that.

That being said, nothing would stop someone from Othard to come to Eorzea. That's what the ninjas did after all. And Yugiri either later or before, depening on when you changed jobs. And Princess Yuki after them. But there is no freakin way the Samurai won't be from Othard. The trainer can be in the freakin Gold Saucer for all I care but it will not be some Ala Mhigan moron.

[Frederick22]

While I do want to go to Othard, this particular argument was against the Samurai being a Gyr Abanian elite soldier. And THAT does not make sense. Because of facts.

Yes, I would prefer to wait till we go there, because I want to go there eventually, and I want at least one job that is tied to the place. I don't believe that is too much to ask. Of course if someone can come up with a new job that really fits Othard, I'm all for that.

That being said, nothing would stop someone from Othard to come to Eorzea. That's what the ninjas did after all. And Yugiri either later or before, depening on when you changed jobs. And Princess Yuki after them. But there is no freakin way the Samurai won't be from Othard. The trainer can be in the freakin Gold Saucer for all I care but it will not be some Ala Mhigan moron.

Dont try to have high expectations for something that may not be seeing in a very long time, like in orther threads were people tend to hold to their Viera theories despite all evidence is agaisnt it LoL.

Samurai is for Orthard, like thats too obious since Ninja was from there too. I don not see any reason as why shouldnt be from there.
Why doesnt make sence? Samurai is NOT an elite soldier of ala mhigo, period. But that doesnt mean that its npc trainers cant be there, they may well be there for whatever reason the game's lore puts them on there.

[silentwindfr]

people tend to forget an important point Ala Mhigo is under occupation by the empire, everything link to them tradition was destroyed while the invasion...
then don't expect to have the town a place before a moment, we go in direction of ala mhigo, it don't means it will be a normal town directly.

[Balipu]

Samurai is for Orthard, like thats too obious since Ninja was from there too. I don not see any reason as why shouldnt be from there.
Why doesnt make sence? Samurai is NOT an elite soldier of ala mhigo, period. But that doesnt mean that its npc trainers cant be there, they may well be there for whatever reason the game's lore puts them on there.

That's exactly what I just said in the last paragraph. Like literally the same thing. Are you trying to troll? Cause it is not a very good attempt.

Samurai's could be a Gyr Abania elite soldier, a bit like how PLD like you mentioned is basically an elite Ul'dah guard. (?) Although no one has agreed with me on that point D: Because NIN and SAM need to be tied together I guess.

Well the only Samurai in game are the ones in the Heavensturn event. They are from the far east. According to Yoshie-P, Othard is the far east on Hydaelin. So yeah Samurai are definitely from Othard.

Could very well be a Otharian/Doman trainer who end up on Gyr Arbaria, Mor dhona, etc and wants to teach the samurai skills. If ends to be on one of the new areas of the exansion, could be anything. Most likely perhaps beacuse he wants to help the resistance and doesnt want to see the ala mhigans suffer the same consecuences Doma did? Who knows...

Nothing would stop someone from Othard to come to Eorzea. That's what the ninjas did after all. And Yugiri either later or before, depening on when you changed jobs. And Princess Yuki after them. But there is no freakin way the Samurai won't be from Othard. The trainer can be in the freakin Gold Saucer for all I care but it will not be some Ala Mhigan moron.

See? We don't agree on every point, but don't look for arguments where there are none.

[Katana190]

Why doesnt make sence? Samurai is NOT an elite soldier of ala mhigo, period.

Well the only Samurai in game are the ones in the Heavensturn event. They are from the far east. According to Yoshie-P, Othard is the far east on Hydaelin. So yeah Samurai are definitely from Othard.

I didn't know this was factual, my bad!

Edit: I can totally see what Shippu suggested becoming the reality of how SAM will be introduced then.

[Frederick22]

That's exactly what I just said in the last paragraph. Like literally the same thing. Are you trying to troll? Cause it is not a very good attempt.

Ehhhh....no....

You seem to be the one that is confusing here...
First you start to be agaisnt people that ended to being instead on favour to what you said.