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  1. #471
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    XgungraveX's Avatar
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    Gungrave Hellsing
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    If this happens more often than normal, it may not be the healer's fault
    right because its never the healer's fault.
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  2. #472
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    Hyouretsuzan Vlondett
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I play all three roles. With healer being my main role (SCH) I DPS when I can and makes it more better for me. Makes me active while running dungeons and it hones my skills. But that's just me. If I'm a tank or a dps and I see the healer not dpsing, I'm not gonna call them out or make a thread on the forums asking why healers don't dps. I just move on and finish the duty. I ain't losing sleep over it
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  3. #473
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    Odett Telos
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    right because its never the healer's fault.
    If you don't rotate your cooldowns correctly as a tank, yes, it is entirely your fault. A healer's task is not to babysit you, especially with the potential level of survivability that tanks have in this game.
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  4. #474
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    Arsain Sacris
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    If this happens more often than normal, it may not be the healer's fault
    You might be surprised how many healers I've seen go tunnel vision on DPS...and then not know what Bene/Tetra/Lustrate/Essential Dignity/etc. are...Even after I pop HG/Living Dead.

    Or, heavens forbid, that one WHM I ran into once who said "I'm a DPS WHM, not a healer WHM."
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  5. #475
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    Odett Telos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironos View Post
    You might be surprised how many healers I've seen go tunnel vision on DPS...and then not know what Bene/Tetra/Lustrate/Essential Dignity/etc. are...Even after I pop HG/Living Dead.

    Or, heavens forbid, that one WHM I ran into once who said "I'm a DPS WHM, not a healer WHM."
    maybe I'm incredibly lucky but I do my roulettes every day as a tank and I never encounter these problems
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
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    im very aware how rotate defense cds when the time call for it but when im sitting at 10% hp more than a min then die because the healer is too busy dpsing a mob rather than keeping the tank alive it get annoying fast when it happens more that once. i dont really care if healers dps in fights as long they keep that party alive should be 1st objective. but if they cant mutitask maybe they should just heal and let players who que for dps let them worry about mobs.
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  7. #477
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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    im very aware how rotate defense cds when the time call for it
    When the time calls for it? You should always be using defensive cooldowns if you are being struck
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  8. #478
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
    When the time calls for it? You should always be using defensive cooldowns if you are being struck
    depends on the situation on mobs/boss fights im not going to blow all my defense cds because i got hit with a melee vs bout get slammed with a tank buster or if dmg is coming in real fast because of muti pulls. hell before i even do anything i check with the healer to see if there ok with how we do the run.
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  9. #479
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    Odett Telos
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XgungraveX View Post
    depends on the situation on mobs/boss fights im not going to blow all my defense cds because i got hit with a melee vs bout get slammed with a tank buster or if dmg is coming in real fast because of muti pulls. hell before i even do anything i check with the healer to see if there ok with how we do the run.
    That's not how tanking works, lol. You don't blow all your defensive cooldowns for anything because you're gonna have a giant phase of spike damage where you have nothing to use and you'll make your healer work harder. You have tons of cooldowns and each one can be used depending on what you're fighting and your current situation, but you never NOT use one if you are being hit by anything. If you die, and you had no defensive cooldowns up, then yes, it's more than likely your fault. If you overpull, and incorrectly gauge your cooldown usage, then that too, is more than likely your fault as well; that's part of our responsibility as tanks.
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    Last edited by Odett; 01-06-2016 at 04:58 AM.

  10. #480
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odett View Post
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    not going to blow a cd on one mob......
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