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[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Another thread born of FFXI nostalgia driven mumbo jumbo. You don't have to be so limited you know. You can either wait til this game goes to Pay to Play or keep playing FFXI.

I will have to say, when you're expecting this game to become your favorite MMO from a previous installment, you're never going to be happy with it. You were younger then and you had a lot more fun. This is the problem that SE is going to have for a long time. A lot of FFXI fans who had a very long and close relationship to the game who are looking to get that feeling back. It's impossible unless they directly copy the game's systems. Which is not innovative and unimpressive to me or others who don't have the same ties to FFXI as you do.

FFXIV isn't going to be as good to you as someone who isn't FFXI nostalgia driven. Tis the way it always works. Things are always better 10 years ago. It doesn't matter who you're talking to or what you're talking about. People will always latch onto what they had fun with way back when.

[Jynx]

FFXIV isn't going to be as good to you as someone who isn't FFXI nostalgia driven. Tis the way it always works.

I wonder if anyone will look back at XIV and be like "Man that **** was fun! I want my next MMO to be more like it at launch!"

As much as you assume people are looking through nostalgia goggles, the fact of the matter is that XIV is a far inferior game to pretty much anything that is currently on the market. So I wouldn't get all upity on people for remembering how fun a game can be instead of how "Meh" the one they are playing currently is.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I wonder if anyone will look back at XIV and be like "Man that **** was fun! I want my next MMO to be more like it at launch!"

As much as you assume people are looking through nostalgia goggles, the fact of the matter is that XIV is a far inferior game to pretty much anything that is currently on the market. So I wouldn't get all upity on people for remembering how fun a game can be instead of how "Meh" the one they are playing currently is.

I can almost guarantee that when FFXIV goes to pay to play, the only people who will be thinking that will still be the FFXI nostalgia driven players. :P

FFXIV will never be good enough til you let FFXI go. Sorry, but that's a fact.

[Jynx]

I can almost guarantee that when FFXIV goes to pay to play, the only people who will be thinking that will still be the FFXI nostalgia driven players. :P

FFXIV will never be good enough til you let FFXI go. Sorry, but that's a fact.

FFXIV has a long way to go before they hit anyone with a sense of awesomeness and scale, especially when they seem concerned about destroying any sense of scale wherever they go.

I let FFXI go when Abysea came out, hell long before that. It doesn't mean I don't know what makes a good game in my eyes. Saying that people are blind because they enjoyed XI is just asanine XIV has tons of potential to be greater than XI. If your trying to argue that just because I played XI 7 years ago that it's why I think it was a great game you are wrong.

Ultima Online was my first MMO and it was terrible compared to XI, Everquest was even worse. Someone doesn't need to be blinded by nostalgia to think that XI did alot of things right.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

FFXIV has a long way to go before they hit anyone with a sense of awesomeness and scale, especially when they seem concerned about destroying any sense of scale wherever they go.

I let FFXI go when Abysea came out, hell long before that. It doesn't mean I don't know what makes a good game in my eyes. Saying that people are blind because they enjoyed XI is just asanine XIV has tons of potential to be greater than XI. If your trying to argue that just because I played XI 7 years ago that it's why I think it was a great game you are wrong.

Ultima Online was my first MMO and it was terrible compared to XI, Everquest was even worse. Someone doesn't need to be blinded by nostalgia to think that XI did alot of things right.

But FFXI shaped what you feel is a great MMO. Without FFXI you wouldn't be so critical and make so many references to it. This is evident to the fact that you can't bring up a dislike for one of FFXIV's systems and compare it to FFXI.

In the redevelopment process it's more productive and rewarding to be forward thinking. I'm not saying that FFXIV is definitively forward thinking, but also at the same time it doesn't do anyone any good to go backwards.

[Zoltan]

Another thread born of FFXI nostalgia driven mumbo jumbo. You don't have to be so limited you know. You can either wait til this game goes to Pay to Play or keep playing FFXI.

I will have to say, when you're expecting this game to become your favorite MMO from a previous installment, you're never going to be happy with it. You were younger then and you had a lot more fun. This is the problem that SE is going to have for a long time. A lot of FFXI fans who had a very long and close relationship to the game who are looking to get that feeling back. It's impossible unless they directly copy the game's systems. Which is not innovative and unimpressive to me or others who don't have the same ties to FFXI as you do.

FFXIV isn't going to be as good to you as someone who isn't FFXI nostalgia driven. Tis the way it always works. Things are always better 10 years ago. It doesn't matter who you're talking to or what you're talking about. People will always latch onto what they had fun with way back when.

It's not nostalgia at all. Its a simple fact that some mechanics like looking for friends and finding a group to XP with was easier in FFXI.

It has nothing to do with storyline. It has everything to do with the fact that many things just don't work as they are now.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

It's not nostalgia at all. Its a simple fact that some mechanics like looking for friends and finding a group to XP with was easier in FFXI.

It has nothing to do with storyline. It has everything to do with the fact that many things just don't work as they are now.

This is in response to the OP. Who is absolutely driven by getting the feeling they had playing a game 10-6 years ago. Which is impossible unless you go back in time.

Basic systems such as party recruitment are of course not connected to FFXI. This is a poor point against what I'm trying to say. Actually, this is a separate thing entirely to what I'm talking about.

[Jennestia]

FFXIV isn't going to be as good to you as someone who isn't FFXI nostalgia driven. Tis the way it always works..

How can you be nostalgia driven with something that's still around today?

"Man I miss the 90s, it sucks that it's 1994."

That's would be what you're saying.

I'm sorry but people who never even touched FFXI hated FFXIV even more than those of us who enjoyed/currently enjoy their other FF MMO. Care to explain why people that never played FFXI hated FFXIV? Since you said yourself, it wouldn't be good to those who are full of FFXI nostalgia.

I swear people just hate FFXI because it's doing a lot better than XIV is even 10 years later.

[Cichy]

How can you be nostalgia driven with something that's still around today?

"Man I miss the 90s, it sucks that it's 1994."

That's would be what you're saying.

I'm sorry but people who never even touched FFXI hated FFXIV even more than those of us who enjoyed/currently enjoy their other FF MMO. Care to explain why people that never played FFXI hated FFXIV? Since you said yourself, it wouldn't be good to those who are full of FFXI nostalgia.

I swear people just hate FFXI because it's doing a lot better than XIV is even 10 years later.

It again goes back to battered housewife syndrome.
FFXI players are used to shut up and put up attitude SE given them for years and they used to not well developed content.
People who dint play XI and played other MMOs out there have more of a put out or get out attitude. They more likely to move on because they seen whats out there and dont have same emotional attachment.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

How can you be nostalgia driven with something that's still around today?

"Man I miss the 90s, it sucks that it's 1994."

That's would be what you're saying.

I'm sorry but people who never even touched FFXI hated FFXIV even more than those of us who enjoyed/currently enjoy their other FF MMO. Care to explain why people that never played FFXI hated FFXIV? Since you said yourself, it wouldn't be good to those who are full of FFXI nostalgia.

I swear people just hate FFXI because it's doing a lot better than XIV is even 10 years later.

It's not the same game anymore. When people refer to FFXI, they almost always refer to it pre Abyssea. Don't humor me with a ridiculous argument like this. MMOs, FFXI speicifically, is not the same game now that it was 2 years ago, 5 years ago, or 10 years ago. C'mon Jenn. You're smarter than this.