The arrogance of some people

[Kaurie]

It was somewhat decent in ARR, but after the expansion it never really scaled up so it's currently rather unhelpful.

If by somewhat decent, you mean it was an OK heal at level 25, then sure. However, even then, you'd be unwise to use it.

[Aryalandi]

Blah, blah, blah... Let's see you finish a dungeon without a healer present.

And then this happened and i had to add lets see a healer do a dungeon their own level without a tank.

People in dungeons need one another in order to succeed, no one is better than anyone else.

[Launched]

Blah, blah, blah... Let's see you finish a dungeon without a healer present.

Sure, I'd just bring another WAR in your place and tank swap on bosses. Would probably clear faster than with a healer that doesn't DPS anyway.

[Jim_Berry]

And then this happened and i had to add lets see a healer do a dungeon their own level without a tank.

People in dungeons need one another in order to succeed, no one is better than anyone else.

Exactly... Tanks and dps need the healer to heal. Tanks and dps shouldn't need a healer to dps. It should be free will on the healer's expense; not forced to do it, not frowned upon for not doing it. Again, Alex Savage brought out the mentality that everyone NEED TO dps in ALL content now.

[Jim_Berry]

Sure, I'd just bring another WAR in your place and tank swap on bosses. Would probably clear faster than with a healer that doesn't DPS anyway.

By all means, go for it. I'm not here to tell you NOT to do it that way, just like you shouldn't tell me to dps as WHM.

[SoothingBell]

Sure, I'd just bring another WAR in your place and tank swap on bosses. Would probably clear faster than with a healer that doesn't DPS anyway.

lmao please

[hours]

40 minute SMA run
i210 DPS (SMN?)

wut

[Andrea]

The issue was that WHM in FFXI struggled to complete quests due to lack of dps when solo. Cleric Stance helps to change this handicap.

Im not saying that isn't the case, but if they removed cleric stance from instances I would need to start watching Netflix or something to get through them. I would just find it so boring to be unable to do any meaningful DPS in dungeons.

[Aryalandi]

Exactly... Tanks and dps need the healer to heal. Tanks and dps shouldn't need a healer to dps. It should be free will on the healer's expense; not forced to do it, not frowned upon for not doing it. Again, Alex Savage brought out the mentality that everyone NEED TO dps in ALL content now.

People should be allowed to choose to do what they are comfortable with without fear of being mistreated, people should also be willing to give it their all and push themselves to achieve the highest ability level in whatever job they play. This has been a thing since long before new content came up.

[Jim_Berry]

People should be allowed to choose to do what they are comfortable with, people should also be willing to give it their all and push themselves to achieve the highest ability level in whatever job they play. This has been a thing since long before new content came up.

Agreed! I say this often, but still get the cold shoulder from the community. To keep tension down, I'm a NIN instead of WHM now.