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  1. #211
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    Lukha's Avatar
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    Goblet W13P13, Ul'Dah
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rynia View Post
    I wanna be a pure healer, but I can't, so I do my frankly pointless dps/get stressed out toeing the line between Holy and healing.

    If your DPS is 'frankly pointless', you're doing something wrong. In the right scenario, WHM is capable of being top DPS because of how strong our AoE game is.

    You shouldn't have to stress between Holy and healing skills, either, if you have decent judgement and use your tools correctly. Between Asylum, Regen and Medica II, you have 21 seconds of hands-free 300 potency healing, and 200 after that if you keep Medica II and Regen up (which you should be, since they're cost efficient and exist to lower your stress level). Once you toggle Cleric Stance, you have about a spell and a half before you can turn it back off (1.5 Holies, Aero III and most of Aero II, Aero II, Aero I+Fluid Aura); you can click it off preemptively at about 2/3 through casting a spell. If your tank can't survive for five seconds during a normal pull WITH 200 or 300 worth of regen effect on him, you've got much bigger problems than DPSing and should ask whether his gear is broken or he'd like to try smaller pulls.
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    Last edited by Lukha; 01-04-2016 at 09:55 AM. Reason: character limits

  2. #212
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    Tagihi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lhei Fox
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    there is loads of these people sometimes i even wonder why they play the game!
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  3. #213
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    SoothingBell's Avatar
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    Character
    Soft Cat
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    If your a summoner or blackmage and see the tank dropping and the healer struggling, then sure, why not? I do it all the time, may not be the MOST effective, but a little heals will assist in keeping that tank up.
    What the hell? Psychic on blm/smn? Really? What are you even saying? Like just back off because you sound ridiculous right now.
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  4. #214
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    Asmodai's Avatar
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    Character
    Nyx Dorne
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I will start dpsing in pugs when the dps start doing it. Until then, im just going to do what I want.
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  5. #215
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    Nicolepwned's Avatar
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    Character
    Rose Kilupa
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    Sargatanas
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Savage says, "hi".
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  6. #216
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    Aryalandi's Avatar
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    Character
    U'semih Gah
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    Sagittarius
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I can understand a great deal of the arguments against dpsing in a party, honestly if you are so pressed with keeping everyone alive that you cannot do anything else then anyone who tries to mock your performance is being foolish.. however if you are finding yourself in a situation where nobody needs healing more than once or twice per 20 seconds and you are just standing there with the excuse that it is only your job to heal well..



    That is the last i will say on the subject. Its simply a waste not to take advantage of your awesome ability to adapt to what is going on in front of you by using your attack spells when you can.

    It isn't something that ever warrants mistreating party members as long as someone is doing their best but it is kind of sad that some people /won't/ challenge themselves out of fear of failing.
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    Last edited by Aryalandi; 01-04-2016 at 10:34 AM.

  7. #217
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingBell View Post
    What the hell? Psychic on blm/smn? Really? What are you even saying? Like just back off because you sound ridiculous right now.
    It was somewhat decent in ARR, but after the expansion it never really scaled up so it's currently rather unhelpful.
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  8. #218
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    SoothingBell's Avatar
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    Soft Cat
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    It was somewhat decent in ARR, but after the expansion it never really scaled up so it's currently rather unhelpful.
    I agree with that.
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  9. #219
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    Jim_Berry's Avatar
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    Character
    Jim Berry
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Unless they change the game completely then if they disable cleric stance it will make healers a snooze fest.

    You dont need to be healing all the time as it is, if I can't dps as a healer what am I meant to do during that time? watch Netflix or something?
    The issue was that WHM in FFXI struggled to complete quests due to lack of dps when solo. Cleric Stance helps to change this handicap.
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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  10. #220
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    Character
    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dorander View Post
    Have to agree with quite a few of you. A healer standing there doing nothing, until hp bars drop till a heal is necessary is just plain laziness and a detriment to the party. They are about as useful as icemages and silent bards.
    Blah, blah, blah... Let's see you finish a dungeon without a healer present.
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    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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