The arrogance of some people

[Bourne_Endeavor]

And whats the problem? WHMs should stop with this mentality of saving all skills for emergencies in dungeons, they are just cutting their power for no reason.

Sometimes I start DPSing without even using regen on the tank, just to finish with a Benediction. Example: In the big pack after second boss in fractal, I start with Presence of Mind, Holy Spam + Assize and finish with a beautiful Benediction on the tank, I always get at least 2 commendations when I do that, going 3k+ DPS there.

I use Tetra regularly, thats how I afford time and mana to DPS. Lots of damage going on? Instead of saving swiftcast for rez, I use swiftcast + Medica II, throw a Tetra in a DPS and Benediction on the tank, boom, situation already under control.

If I were always saving skills for the tank when he is almost dying, my hands would be tied almost all the time.

Hmm, I might just have to give this a go when I start leveling WHM. So thank you. ^^

[Lukha]

So, all of you healers who are strenuously opposed to DPSing, how do you spend all that free time you have just standing around staring at the tank? Don't you get bored of doing nothing the majority of the time?

Personally, as a main WHM, I take a lot of pride in pushing my DPS as hard as I can (and maybe just a little pleasure in giving tanks who don't know me mild heart attacks by letting them drop as low as possible without actually letting them die), but even in tougher content or during large pulls I do my best to toss out dots or at least fluid aura. As a healer, this is my job, because dead mobs can't do damage; helping the party kill them quicker is more efficient than spamming heals.

[Odstarva]

I really don't see how asking a healer to deal some damage between heals is arrogant. The DOTs are there to be used, no?

Is it arrogant to ask a summoner to cast eye for an eye, or a quick raise? Or to ask a bard for a specific song?

Hmm...

[Alysanne]

Funny, in the conjurer quest line the little girl cries "I ONLY WANNA HEAL" and you have to explain to her that she's an idiot.

I guess that went right over some peoples heads.

[Dorander]

Have to agree with quite a few of you. A healer standing there doing nothing, until hp bars drop till a heal is necessary is just plain laziness and a detriment to the party. They are about as useful as icemages and silent bards.

[Rynia]

Funny, in the conjurer quest line the little girl cries "I ONLY WANNA HEAL" and you have to explain to her that she's an idiot.

I guess that went right over some peoples heads.

rofl. Sylphie doesn't want to do anything but heal in the context of not learning the other parts of conjuring i.e. talking to the elementals and such. Has nothing to do with the player and anyone conflating the two is just reaching, really xD

(Disclaimer to all my posts: I do dps in dungeons - not in Savage because I don't need to, my dps actually do their job omg - I just don't like dpsing and think it's lazy design to make it so this dps-above-all-else meta has arisen. DPSing as a whm is boring, and yes it's more boring than standing there doing "nothing".)

[SlyTribal]

Funny, in the conjurer quest line the little girl cries "I ONLY WANNA HEAL" and you have to explain to her that she's an idiot.

I guess that went right over some peoples heads.

That was dealt with starting from page 7 going onto about 10.

[Aryalandi]

That was dealt with starting from page 7 going onto about 10.

Actually it was mentioned starting on page 2~
Errr.. but yes, this was a thing already.

[Symon17]

Every job has a set of skills that should be fully utilized to reach the end goal. As a healer, refusing to use a large part of your skill set is like a ninja or bard saying "I refuse to use goad/songs because they're not attacks and I'm a dps!" Monk gets mantra, casters have eye for an eye. None of these skills deal damage, but they were given to damage dealers. Likewise, if healers were intended to only heal they wouldn't have a collection of attack skills and decent damage output. In the case of white mage, three out of five of its new skills deal damage. That in itself is telling.

I don't condone being a jerk to anyone, and no one in the game can make you do anything. But you should be aware that standing still and refusing to do anything when no one needs healing is counter-productive.

[Belhi]

I've never had a problem with this but I play on a JP server so maybe that is the difference. I will often dps when I can but there are plenty of DFs where I have dpsed very little, particularly in Expert runs, and that is because my primary role is keeping everyone alive and there are a lot of tanks and dps out there who are either lacking gear or skill and as such stance dancing creates the very real risk of people dying and me failing at my primary job of healer.

Personally though I've never been bothered with what healers do as long as no one dies. I certainly don't want to discourage players who enjoy healer game play from playing in DF environments because that's just asking for longer queue times as dps. Likewise I don't want to have situations where healers feel too pressured to dps, particularly when they are learning, and it leading to wipes. If your queuing for DF you shouldn't be expecting high levels of efficient play. Shaving a couple of minutes off a run isn't worth an extra 5 mins of queue time or adding a couple of minutes to the run due to a wipe.

Oh and if the Expert run has taken 40 mins then the dps has no right to be lecturing the healer on how he does his job.