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    Phoenicia's Avatar
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    Naomi Enami
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    As long as it doesnt destroy the game like DCUO did with their scoreboard for pve.
    That depends mainly on what is being graded and how rewards (if any) are given. Just because 1 game failed at something doesn't mean it will fail on every other game. There are far too many variables to a gaim's failure or success.



    Take Tera for example, it had a few "graded" instances where the higher the score the better the reward. However, the grade was a team total grade, not personal. The reward was given to everyone in party. While this DID kind of pushed a level of elitism among the community while recruiting members. Recruitment messages mainly were along the lines of "So and so A rank group. Experience required".

    Now Tera wasn't the best MMO in the market. Didn't even get close. And its community went into the gutter when it went F2P. And it wasn't because of its grading system of 3 or 4 instances out of 18. It was because when bad players played bad everyone else "felt" it. That game is kind of harder. Being F2P brought all kinds of people to play. There are other reasons, but again, not the topic of this thread.

    Let's face it, this game is ALREADY PLAGUED with "elitism" based on ilv alone. Have you ever been in ilv100 Leviathan groups that require linking TWO items because 1 wasn't enough? Leviathan didn't even drop ilv100 (it was 90 or with mirror for 95). What is funnier, they would kick you if you said "I do not have a levi weapon anymore, but I can play my class. Here is my High Allagan WeaponS" <- Plural. I rejoined, linked a Ramuh item and said "You can't fight Ramuh if you don't kill Levi. Is that okay?". Funny thing? After the kill, 3 people were still on the raft while the rest were swimming. And the party leader wasn't on the raft.

    Same with Thordan Ex and PF asking for 205 parties when required is 195. I personally healed the fight on my ilv191 scholar (cheating with accessories to enter, but my FC knew that.)

    Which brings us back to setting a standard of what a "skilled" player is. Just because you're ilv 209 does not mean you're better than everyone who is 208. Have you seen the tanks that deliberately lower their ilv using penta-melded ilv 150 accessories? Those tanks WILL outperform ANY ilv210 tank. In both aspects, mitigation AND offense. Even if the 210 beats them in 1 aspect, it would be not by much, and with sacrificing a lot of the other aspect. Tank performance, however, is a whole different topic outside the scope of this thread.

    A personal scoreboard that you view at the end of the dungeon as you leave the instance hurts no one. You know you performed well for whatever reason but the score was low? Well tough luck, the "in your 'elitist' opinion" reason of the low score is long gone from the instance and you can't even harass them. You think you didn't perform as you should and you got a low score because of it? Well, no one can harass you now because you both left the instance! But if your score is low EVERY time? It can't be everyone else ALL the time. You would have to be the reason.

    Now just because someone cleared all the dungeons up to expert roulette doesn't make them good. Scoring a D- everytime they roll will let THEM know that they aren't good enough. And if they can't figure out by themselves at this point that as a BLM you use fire to do damage and then ice to recover MP (Sorry I keep bring BLM up, it is imo the easiest class to pick up even though it is among the hardest to master), you NEED someone else's help. If you would feel offended when someone gives advice, read a guide or watch a video. Do something, just do not expect everyone to be nice.
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenicia View Post
    That depends mainly on what is being graded and how rewards (if any) are given. Just because 1 game failed at something doesn't mean it will fail on every other game.
    I feel bonus tomes would be a good reward.

    It would help those who want to just cap eso for the week and forget about roulettes to do so quicker and they would be encouraged to do better in dungeons to get said reward.

    Its also a reward that if you are learning you wouldn't be overly worried you miss out on.
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