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  1. #31
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    NaySilver's Avatar
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    Nayuki Silverwind
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    40min run in Saint and you are discussing about healer's dps... really?
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  2. #32
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    reverseblade's Avatar
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    Xain Obsidia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Bad healer is bad.
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  3. #33
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    SlyTribal's Avatar
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    Sly Tribal
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NaySilver View Post
    40min run in Saint and you are discussing about healer's dps... really?
    Since it was the main part of the OP, yes. The 40 min run was just a minor part of it.
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  4. #34
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    LazyMemories's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Square Soft
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    Ethers. It's showing you don't know how to properly use your mp if you're full.
    Are you trying to troll right now lol?
    If you're carrying high elixir or ethers then something is wrong with your group. Either you're over healing or worrying to much and only using cure 2.
    I can understand if the tank is rushing and makes no time for mp to regenerate but that's it those ethers are garbage throw away stuff
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  5. #35
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    Andrea's Avatar
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    Princess Andrea
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    Not lazy, tank always needs a cure no matter what hp at unless 100%.So I'll cure 1 for days till I get a free cure 2 and then pop regen but a heal is a heal

    I can confirm tanks do not always need cures. People in this game do not need to be at 100% health, Sounds like you are overhealing which is bad in itself.

    No other class in the game gets to stand around afk for 10-20 seconds between spells. Theres a reason healers get so many dps skills.
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  6. #36
    Player RuleofThree's Avatar
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    Thessayn Svisast
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    True story: I had a tank that would pull two groups at a time, and would fall down below 50% hp in the blink of an eye. I had to spam Cure I and even some cure IIs to keep him up. Half way through, he bitched at me for not DPSing. Me, being a guy that likes to make examples by showing, rather than words, started to mix in DPS. He died immediately next pull. Then bitched at me for DPSing.

    The point? You aren't going to win. This game has a community in which there is no roles anymore - everyone is dps...everyone. If DoL classes could do dungeons, you know the community here would find a way to get max dps out of miners....this game is that hooked on it - dps is crack to these people. Some people agree with this, some don't. Either way, you are going to get bitched at, just do what you are comfortable with, and move on.
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    Last edited by RuleofThree; 01-04-2016 at 01:44 AM.

  7. #37
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    Not lazy, tank always needs a cure no matter what hp at unless 100%.So I'll cure 1 for days till I get a free cure 2 and then pop regen but a heal is a heal
    As a career tank, let me say something here. Tanks aren't made of glass. We don't just break the second our HP drop below 100%. Tanks are actually damn hard to kill in this game as long as they are using their skills effectively. If your tank is bad or poorly geared then no, you probably will not have time to DPS. But if you have a tank that's actively mitigating damage (to the extent that you can in this game, anyway) why not use that time to do something besides stand there waiting for them to get a scrape?

    Quote Originally Posted by LazyMemories View Post
    Are you trying to troll right now lol?
    If you're carrying high elixir or ethers then something is wrong with your group. Either you're over healing or worrying to much and only using cure 2.
    I can understand if the tank is rushing and makes no time for mp to regenerate but that's it those ethers are garbage throw away stuff
    Wrong. Good healers are prepared for many eventualities, and thus carry items to recoup mana. I make Max-Ethers for my static's WHM. Having the item and not needing it is better than needing the item and only having an empty inventory slot.
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    Last edited by Ashkendor; 01-04-2016 at 01:43 AM.

  8. #38
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    Just don't go overboard, when I am bard it bugs me when WHM empties their MP pool with stone 2 or 3 or something then asks for Ballad which lowers my dps by 20%.
    Isn't helping healers to do dmg the job of bards?
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  9. #39
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Isn't helping healers to do dmg the job of bards?
    Support takes precedence over DPS on Bard, but some people can't understand that.
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  10. #40
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Isn't helping healers to do dmg the job of bards?
    No a bards job is do damage as well. A healers job is to heal primarily so the idea isn't to have a healer empty their mp and then expect ballad.
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