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    I've just wrapped up a fresh pass through my tome of everything the Ascians have ever said. TL;DR it didn't help much.

    90% of the references mesh with what we've already put together. The Ascians breed chaos, chaos is entwined with Darkness, Darkness covers the world and leads to the rise of Zodiark. A major part of the plan is teaching the arts of summoning so that various gods will be risen and set against one another in great wars - it's a pretty reliable strategy.

    Elidibus and Lahabrea have both made claims that Hydaelyn is the root of an imbalance, with Lahabrea going to far as to claim that it threatens to undo the natural order of the corporeal and aetheric worlds. They have both said that they plan to resurrect the One True God, Zodiark, because only He can ensure her complete annihilation. They have both said that the Rejoining will set things right and restore the original state of things (the way they always should have been). Elidibus only talks about balance around Hydaelyn's children, but you can't just dismiss it outright in its entirety because Lahabrea said basically the same thing right before trying to kill us (why lie then?).

    Except every hint points to the Rejoining being a compression of all worlds into a state of Genesis - a state of Creation that Zodiark could guide.

    Now, Lahabrea freely admitted all of this in the presence of Igeyorhm, so if Elidibus' plan is different from the mainstream, he kept it from Lahabrea. He doesn't seem to have anything different in mind, though, since he too freely admitted that Hydaelyn would be lost and everything would be reverted to some form that they've been trying for seven Calamities to restore. Why, then, when everything else they say matches, does Lahabrea speak of eternal Darkness while Elidibus speak of Balance?

    Trying to unravel it all into a coherent "this is what's going on" is making me go cross-eyed at this juncture. What I'm missing could be anything. It's all true but not in our best interest, or there are different goals that overlap in certain places or not others, or someone's lying about something... What's the key? Maybe I'll be able to nail this final bit when we learn why Calamities happen later in the 3.X series.

    All I know right now is that I'm going to be pretty dejected if it's revealed that the other thirteen facets of the Sea are the worlds Lahabrea and Elidibus didn't come from. You know, Vana'diel, Ivalice, etc. and that by saving Hydaelyn, we save all of Final Fantasy. You know, like not letting XIV sink helped accomplish. Heartwarming though the theme is, please no. Leave that kind of stuff to Dissidia.

    I hope it's something more, like, whatever dimensions gave rise to theories about the Seven Heavens and the Seven Hells.
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